Mick Mac

Annasfield Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I imagine certain scum readers are influenced by > it. Horrible rag. > > Don't buy the S*n Woodley, the joint general secretary of Unite, urged Britain to follow the example of Liverpool where thousands of readers boycotted the paper after it blamed fans for the Hillsborough football stadium disaster. "We do not need an Australian/American coming to our country with a paper that has never supported one progressive policy and telling us how politics should be run in this country," he told the conference in Brighton. As he shredded the paper owned by Rupert Murdoch, he added: "In Liverpool we learnt a long time ago what to do. I just wish the rest of the country would do the same thing."

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???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Was it Mc or a Mac by the way pedant? I was making a joke, but not intended to be at your expense Quids. I have just noticed I have got my own name wrong - I should be "Mc" - I must change that before someone picks me up on it.

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > How about Mackenzie (then Sun editor) to Major at > the end of Black Wednesday..when Major called him > > Major: "Erm, well Kevin how are you going to treat > us tomorrow?" Kelvin: Who the fuck is "Kevin", my name is Kelvin - Have you completely lost it Prime Minister? I hate people getting my name wrong and I'm going to screw you tomorrow.

Anyone who thinks the Sun does not have political influence should read this: There is a rather apt section in Campbell's diaries (via the Telegraph) in which he recalls Neil Kinnock's objection, back in the mid-1990s, to Blair and Brown's dangerous strategy of cosying up to Murdoch, and the former Labour leader's prescient warning about the potential for duplicity: Neil Kinnock exploded with rage at Campbell over Mr Blair's decision to fly to Australia try to woo Rupert Murdoch's tabloid Sun to the New Labour cause. The row erupted in the south of France in 1995 where Campbell and his family were on holiday having invited Mr Kinnock and his wife Glenys Kinnock, who were close friends, to stay. "He's sold out even before he has got there,'' Kinnock raged as he clutched a kettle full of boiling water which Campbell feared was heading in his direction. "Tax, health, education, unions, full employment, race immigration, everything, he's totally sold out. What are we for? ''It won't matter if we win as the bankers and stockbrokers have got us already by the f*****g balls. And that is before you take your 30 pieces of silver." Challenged to explain what he meant, he spat out: "Murdoch." Kinnock, said: "You imagine what its like having your head stuck inside a f*****g light bulb then tell me how I am supposed to feel when you set off halfway round the world to grease him up." He was referring to the front page of the Sun on polling day in 1992 under the headline: "Last one out turn the lights off." Campbell countered that they had given Murdoch nothing but Kinnock said: "You will. And he will take it. You will get his support and then you will get the support of a few racist b*******, and then you'll lose it again the minute that we are in trouble." How right you were Neil...and how foolish (and now hypocritical) Blair, Brown, Mandelson, Campbell, Prescott and the rest have been...

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I saw the clip on the Beeb News - all I could think of was how well Barbara Windsor looked.

Asset Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > They ditched Martina because she couldn't dance. What's that got to do with it Asset. I think she should have stayed. I have not watched since.

Celtic completley on top and Celtic make 3 substitutions, 2 of which I would disagree with. He takes off NGuemo, who I thought was holding things together in midfield, if Celtic lose the last 10 minute midfield battle it will be s disaster and poor work by Mowbray.

Racing Post Couch opposes STS

Ebay has been ok for me. What I have won and lost on is sometimes paying over the odds for tickets but I have always received the goods. Sorry you have had such a bad experience GG.

Still no rain in Paris - STS must be laughing at his horsey mates and raring to go. Might rain Sunday though.

Have to say I'm amazed that Gary Caldwell is on the team tonight. Loovens has been solid for Celtic and is unfairly dropped. Hope that defensive frailities do not haunt us. 55 mins - Caldwell misses open goal - hes becoming a comedy character.

GOAL.....1-1. Cheating austrians.

Wrong thread too. Silly Judy.

Your 8.21 post was comedy timing Quids.

Like me, Judy's a big Celtic fan.

the toxic assets were AAA rated. Hindsight is a wonderful thing hal. Shame? Im not a gordon brown fan. I cant stand the man. But he did save the worlds banks. The debt we will be repaying in the uk for years hal is the debt on US homes accumuled by a us system that allows us mortgagees to hand in their keys and walk away from their debts and these debts were AAA rated by us rating agenries.

the thread is about gordons rescue plan for the banks. But it any case sub prime was the principle cause of the financial crisis. Show me a bank that would have needed saving if it had not been for sub prime.

he pops into the vic.

for anyone who does not support celtic 4/1 on rapid vienna looks like good odds. This team beat hamburg the german league leaders 3-0 in the first game and the jury is out on tony mowbrays celtic.

1. He saved the banks. This needed quick and decisive action. The banks needed to be stabilised or things would have been significantly worse than they are now. 2. The banks problems were their own investment in sub prime and for RBS also buying others sub prime in buying abn anro. Sub prime is a us created problem which the world has and will be paying for for decades. Sure the banks were too aggressive in their lending but it was ironically their investment in sub prime that broke them. Sub prime cannot be laid at gordons door but he dealt with it admirably.

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > In '92 I felt utter despair that the Tories won > the election...I think I'll feel pretty similar if > Labour win the next one. I just feel this time ill be disappointed whoever wins. I thought labour would be great but after early promise they lost their way. Now im old and cynical no party seems to offer obvious improvement. Has your politics changed over time quids? I think mine has but i dont think there is a party that can govern this country due to perceived poor parenting and political correctness protecting bad behaviour of our youth in and out of school. If i wanted a party to pursue one change it would be to make parents take more responsibility for their childrens actions and behaviour up to age 18. An increased sense of responsibility in families might help the uk in the long run.

celtic on channel 5 tonight so make sure you retune in time to see us get beaten again.

the sun and its readers are welcome to each other. However even newsnight presents the suns following day headline each night and the main statement its makes on its front page gets out there to everyone. Hence political statements like the 1992 kinnock headline are consumed by everyone.