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TheCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > On hearing economics that supports leaving 'high > minded theory' If only, instead we have Patrick Minford...

'' So what you're saying is it's hard, and we don't pay much for it...so just let the foreigners do it, they should appreciate the scraps we give them for doing our grunt work right?'' Blimey Cat, talk about putting words into someone else's mouth. The whole point of FoM was that no one was forcing EU nationals to do this type of work, and those that did obviously made a decision that it was worthwhile. And it might not necessarily be just for economic reasons, some people might want to experience working abroad somewhere, learning a new language/culture etc. And of course it went both ways, Brits could work in the EU, and it wasn't just high-flyers jetting off to Paris or Frankfurt, many worked in lower-skilled/paid jobs such as summer/winter resorts (the latter who've recently been told don't bother applying for jobs next season unless you're an EU passport holder), bar workers, boat crew, grape pickers etc. ''...remainers tend to struggle to see the potential for transformation beyond the immediate negative impacts'' That's really not the issue, which is that the Leave campaign never said there would be a negative impact, quite the opposite in fact... ''There will be no downside to Brexit, only a considerable upside'' And if remainers pointed out that there would be, it was dismissed as Project Fear. We were even told we wouldn't leave the Single Market. There were ways we could've Brexited AND minimised the economic impact, but no, that wasn't ideological enough, let's set fire to everything and start again...

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JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is there a Dominic Cummings translator in the > house, what's the trolleys for ? Haphazard, no control, directionless, suddenly veering off course...

TheCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Interesting you should choose to use an image of > MLK (as an side lets conveniently ignore the fact > that this is well known photo of him leading a > prayer, not participating in an act of 'taking the > knee' for its own sake).... Well, MLK's daughter said her father knelt both in prayer and protest, she also equates 'taking the knee' with her father's method of protest, a peaceful yet powerful way to express, so I'm gonna roll with her on that one. But the main point of the photo was exactly what I stated, being on the right side of history. MLK was dismissed as an outsider, an agitator, a communist etc. I could've equally posted a pic of Mandela, who again was similarly dismissed as being a Marxist and a terrorist (remember seeing Young Conservatives wearing ''Hang Nelson Mandela'' T-shirts as a riposte to the ''Free Nelson Mandela'' campaign). Yet here we are again, the same Marxist deflectionary tropes and the common theme of white people telling the victims of racism how they should react to that racism. Time has proven that both MLK and NM were on the right side of history, and I believe the same will be said of the footballers...

The right side of history...

I'm really not a racist...

''its clearly done f-all to help stop this appalling abuse'' No 'gesture' will stop racist trolls from being racist trolls, even one that gets your blessing. That lies with the social media platforms and/or Gov legislation. There's nothing remotely offensive with taking the knee, and all this ''I don't like the knee'' nonsense is nothing but manufactured outrage, all part of a cultural war to 'own the libs'. I'd go so far as to say it's far more insidious, pernicious and downright dangerous than anything a racist troll wants to bang out in a temper tantrum...

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I'm not a big fan of the song, but I do get why it's popular and caught on. I could understand people not liking it if it was snarling, crowing, jingoistic etc, but it's the Lightening Seeds FFS!... :)

I think the song highlighting England's 'underferformance' is its' redeeming quality. It also conveys hope...''30 years of hurt, never stopped me dreaming''...the one thing that all football fans share from national to non-league level, that eternal hope that this time their team will do well...

jazzer Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's coming along nicely home...:)

The parable of the Tortoise and the Hare springs to mind...

Frank Skinner on the Last Leg last night said that ''It's coming home'' was a reference to football originating in England. What he's actually referring to is the setting-up of modern-day football with an official Association and rules therein, which England was the first to do, not the invention of the game itself. A long time ago I read that claim went to China. I'm pretty sure I heard someone in the crowd at Wimbledon shout that tennis was coming home after Barty's win...:)

Don't they have copy editors at the Times?...:)

It's coming Back Home...

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Too sexy for contextual analysis...

Will do, Mary...

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Apparently we'll be the only county in the world pressing ahead with such a strategy that is effectively Vaccines v Covid. No halfway house, no minimising risks, just hope that the vaccine wall holds back Covid...

Spartacus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > However nothing will be true if the next variant > gets through anti bodies / vaccinations then we > will be back at the start of the pandemic again The Gov is basically gambling that a more severe variant the vaccines can't cope with doesn't emerge. If we had a Gov that had a track record of dealing with previous new severe variants quickly and soundly, then I could give them a bit of leeway with such a strategy, but we don't. They were slow to react to both the Kent and Delta variants, the former with terrible consequences, while we've yet to see the full consequences of their inertia over Delta. I don't understand why there's this ideological obsession with relaxing all restrictions on the 19th while there's still a sizeable percentage of the population that is unvaccinated and the Delta variant is clearly on the rise. The public were overwhelmingly behind the lockdowns despite what Tory backbenchers would have you believe, and I'm sure an equally large majority would support retaining some restrictions such as mandatory wearing of masks on public transport, in shops etc...

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