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Seabag Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It looks like we?re going into extra (extra) > time. > > https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/dec > /13/brexit-uk-eu-trade-talks-enter-final-day-amid- > fears-of-no-deal-live-news?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other Quelle surprise! The bottom line is that the UK will have to strike a deal with the EU at some point, even if we initially No Deal, and as the last 4 years have shown, the longer the UK leaves it, the weaker it's position becomes and the worse the deal will be. Still, at least the weekend No Deal panic gave us some comedy gold from the Mail on how we can do our patriotic duty in the event of No Deal, I've already put my order in for a new Aston Martin, that second home I've always dreamed about in the Cotswolds, and a year's supply of Kobe beef...

Sephiroth Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Why not? She was as bad as everyone else. She > knew the damage Brexit would do, was a remainer > and then went along with lies to save her own > skin I think May willingly drank the Koolaid because she could also see Brexit was an opportunity to carry on what she started as Home Sec, create another hostile environment for immigrants, this time from the EU. The vicar's daughter persona shouldn't fool anyone, she's a nasty piece of work when it comes to immigration...

Ok, fellow EDFers, time for a game of Deal or No Deal. Cat with his risk analyses can be the Banker. I fully understand if no one wants to be Noel Edmonds. Lots of talk of No Deal and gunboat diplomacy, but worth remembering that just over a year ago we were in an identical situation of a looming No Deal when trying to get the WA over the line, and then at the last minute Johnson caved in on a customs border down the middle of the Irish Sea. That was a BIG climb down but Johnson gambled that politically he could sell it as 'getting Brexit done', so politics matters to him. That's why I'm going to hedge that there will still be a very last minute deal, because politically a deal is better for Johnson than No Deal. He knows that Labour will be split over the vote for a deal, whereas they would vote unanimously against No Deal. Despite some Labour MPs voting against a deal or abstaining, there should still be enough to counter any ERG vote against the deal, so with these votes, which importantly will include Starmer's, Labour will in effect be seen to endorse the deal politically, which the Tories would no doubt use against them when things get messy. Whereas with a ND the buck would stop entirely with Johnson and the Tories. They would solely own any ensuing chaos/hardship. Politically this matters. All through the Brexit process the Tories have done what is in their own best interest, not the country's. A deal will still be really crap, but at least some of the crap will have landed on Labour...

Johnson visited Northumberland this morning and said No Deal ?would be wonderful for the UK?. Which kinda begs the question, if that's the case then why have we been wasting time, money, and resources these past 4 years trying to get a deal? It's another example of the sheer contempt he has for people especially his own supporters that he will stand there and be so brazenly duplicitous, knowing that they will still back him. Until his supporters start caring about being lied to, he'll continue to do it...

Michael Foot was the one who really got it in the neck for being a scruffy git, especially when he rocked up at the cenotaph in a so-called 'donkey jacket'. Johnson is just as scruffy and unstatesmanlike, right down to the unkempt white hair, but one's a Tory and one wasn't... http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47407000/jpg/_47407009_38853957.jpg

malumbu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Pay attention, I did Izal 8 months ago on another > thread > /forum/read.php? > 32,2106932,2107735#msg-2107735 8 months? Ha! Get to the back of the queue blow--in, some of us under various noms de plume were extolling Izal's delights over a decade ago... /forum/search.php?20,search=Izal,page=1,match_type=ALL,match_dates=0,match_forum=ALL

The first festive double bubble. Week 12 fixtures... Friday 11th December Leeds United v West Ham United Saturday 12th December Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Newcastle United v West Bromwich Albion Manchester United v Manchester City Everton v Chelsea Sunday 13th December Southampton v Sheffield United Crystal Palace v Tottenham Hotspur Fulham v Liverpool Arsenal v Burnley Leicester City v Brighton & Hove Albion Tuesday 15th December Wolverhampton Wanderers v Chelsea Manchester City v West Bromwich Albion Wednesday 16th December Arsenal v Southampton Leeds United v Newcastle United Leicester City v Everton Fulham v Brighton & Hove Albion Liverpool v Tottenham Hotspur West Ham United v Crystal Palace Thursday 17th December Aston Villa v Burnley Sheffield United v Manchester United

Week 11 points... Week 11 table...

A fitting footnote to add to that triptych, would be this eternal tweet written back in Sept 2016, which I presume was a response to Michael Gove's ''The day after we vote to leave, we hold all the cards''... EU lays down a royal flush. UK looks at own cards: Mr Bun the Baker, Pikachu, a Shadowmage, a fireball spell, and the Fool

Courtesy of David Allen Green, a modern day triptych... The Brexit negotiations summarised perfectly in just three pictures...

Welcome to Global Britain, Cool Britannia seems a very long time ago...

700...

ted, how do you think someone who's lost their wife to Covid felt about your comment?...

Try this, it goes through various options...

Today I saw a Chaffinch nibbling on a fat ball. This would never have happened had we not left the EU... #BenefitsofBrexit

Week 11 fixtures, tonight's VIlla v Toon match has been postponed... Saturday 5th December Burnley v Everton Manchester City v Fulham West Ham United v Manchester United Chelsea v Leeds United Sunday 6th December West Bromwich Albion v Crystal Palace Sheffield United v Leicester City Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal Liverpool v Wolverhampton Wanderers Monday 7th December Brighton & Hove Albion v Southampton

Boris Johnson not mentioning this so called 'Brexit benefit' at yesterday's early evening presser, says it all really. After all, this is the man who would tubthump and grandstand at every opportunity, witness him wanting to put the Union Jack on AstraZeneca's vaccine phials...

''Political pressure'' Would that be the same political pressure that meant (off the top of my head): The UK received a substantial rebate? The UK didn't have to adopt the Euro? The UK didn't have to be a part of Schengen? The EU would prefer a 'vaccine bloc' but it hasn't stopped Hungary from ordering a Russian vaccine... Under a 2001 directive, member countries may temporarily authorize the distribution of an unauthorized medicinal product "in response to the suspected or confirmed spread of pathogenic agents, toxins, chemical agents or nuclear radiation, any of which could cause harm.

Nothing to do with Brexit...

Week 10 points... Week 10 table...

The Express has long since stopped being a newspaper, nothing more than a propaganda sheet. 'EU on the brink', rinse and repeat...

It also doesn't apply to expats* as it states, instead it's for visitors, holiday makers, and 2nd home owners who's main residence is in the UK. Basically they're griping about not being able to take more than 3 months holiday in a 6 month period, poor wee lambs. Oh, and someone better tell them not to travel if their passport has less than a 6 month expiry date, and to be prepared to wait in those long 'non-EU passport' queues in order to get their passport stamped. Other than that, bon voyage!... *That'll be immigrants to all of you not blessed to be British

Chickens coming home to roost update: Loving how the Mail is trying to frame this, no doubt aware that some of its middle class readership will be affected. The rules aren't 'new', they are existing rules that apply to all non-EU countries. This is exactly what was said before the referendum and since, yet English exceptionalism carried on sticking its head in the sand. Wait till they find out about the requirements needed for their precious pooches to travel with them...

DiaperDon not happy with these images, kudos to whoever decided to give him this teeny weeny table, at least his hands now look in scale...:)

Just think how good he'd have been if he tied up his laces...:)