diable rouge

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Apparently there's precedent for post-presidency impeachemnt... In time we'll find out how much complicity there's been regarding various law enforcement and the failure of reinforcements to show up promptly on the day, got a feeling it could be jaw-dropping...https://twitter.com/AmyJBrittain/status/1347555005168054275

Gottle of geer!...

Meanwhile, fast forward to 2045... Remember the days when you could get a decent blonde IPA? Yeah, but they were all foreign, at least this pint of warm pish is English...

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TheCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > diable rouge Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > How ridiculous for someone to say Trump and > Brexit > > are somehow entwined... > > > > > https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumb > > > > nails/image/2016/11/14/10/donald-trump-twitter.jpg > > > ?width=490 > > > > Going down.. > > Nigel Farage also likes to drink beer I beleive. > Therefore all people who drink beer must also > support Trump. Nige and Don discuss the merits of the latest IPA... A bit too much on the dark side for my liking, I'll stick with the blondes

How ridiculous for someone to say Trump and Brexit are somehow entwined... Going down..

There was chatter before today's 'events' that Trump would resign with a week to go, to enable Pence to take office and pardon him, making him immune to any federal law stuff. After throwing Pence under the bus and reversing over him a few times for good measure, I guess it's safe to say that idea's been scrapped...

Spartacus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Maybe if we didn't seek scapegoats to justify us > breaking rules, the virus might have been easier > to contain. You mean like blaming the Chinese for the spread of Covid? Your promotion to Maximus Stupidcus is now complete...

Spartacus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The majority, not the minority, feel put upon by > rules, regardless and the DC incident just gave > them licence to use it as an excuse. Let's look > at current behaviour with masks or anti lock down > protesters , they certainly aren't Doing it all > because one man didn't follow the rules You're wrong, again. Take a look at recent polls and you'll find an overwhelming majority in favour of a lockdown (from memory circa 75%), and everyone knows that entails rules. A majority of those wanting a lockdown wanted a 'hard' lockdown (from memory circa 60%), that's not people looking for an excuse to break the rules. For that you have to look at the flip side of the coin, those who didn't want any kind of lockdown (from memory around 10%). > If trust is that thin then we are either sheep > lead by the media or quite frankly doomed (captain > Mainwaring doomed I say) The DC incident is important as he was seen as an integral part of the Gov and the rules we were asked to follow. Actions and words by those in power have consequences, they act as a catalyst, people will react to them, witness the events in the US right now. DC should've resigned or failing to do so, been sacked. That would've sent out a clear message that breaking the rules was unacceptable. > Secondly to use your "for the hard of > understanding" line > > For the hard of thinking , how the hell did China > contain it so well in one Provence yet allowed it > to spread to the,world. It wasn't just a case of a > few people having it in small pockets around the > world, a large number of people must have had it > to create a viral load that infected so many so > quickly > Therefore open your mind, look at why China could > contain it whilst the rest of the world got it so > bad and then and only then call me stupid like you > basically did above ! > > There has to be some reason that a country of so > many million where it originated from didn't see > it explode in all districts yet internationally it > escaped like a rabid beast.. you tell me how they > stopped it and the rest of the world couldn't > because it's not as easy to dismiss as the Tory's > are feckless idiots ... I dunno Stupidcus, how does an exponentially spreading virus with a 14-day incubation period, where a third of carriers are believed to be asymptomatic, spread so quickly?...

Spartacus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Somehow they stopped it spreading internally but > failed to contain it from getting out of China For the hard of understanding: It. Had. Already. Left. China. By. The. Time They. Tried. To Contain. It. Internally...

Spartacus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Which is just a shallow excuse for rule breaking > by people who weren't going to respect them > anyway. Wrong, some people changed behaviour directly because of it, they had been respecting the rules. Trust was broken, which is kinda important when dealing with a public health crisis. Personally, the BC incident didn't change my behaviour but I understand why for many it did. They weren't natural rule breakers you like to paint, simply fed up with the 'one law for them etc'' attitude of the Gov. > Did he corrupt the French, Spanish or Italians > where people also broke the rules ? Of course there will be people that break rules, but they are in a minority and as I said before, the majority kept to the rules. The first lockdown worked with respect to suppressing the virus and flattening the curve, precisely because most of us followed the rules. Do you seriously think we shouldn't have rules because of a minority will break them?...

Spartacus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > DR > Explain then how China closed its internal borders > to contain it mostly to Wuhan but international > flights / travel exported it to the rest of the > world. > > If the same measures implemented internally to > contain it to Wuhan in China were used in the > first place, covid would be no worse than the last > SARS outbreak... > > Hence why I'm if a mind to look at how the Chinese > government let it escape to the rest of the world What bit of ''it would've already been too late'' did you not understand?...

> Spartacus Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > > I actually think it's spreading fast due to how > > people behave, no matter what government rule > is > > put in, by any government, people won't follow > it > > and the virus goes "that'll do nicely thanks" Actually, most of us were following the rules, then Bernard Castle and the failure to show contrition and/or apologise happened...

I don't see how someone can blame the Chinese Gov for not containing the virus when it first appeared, when almost every other country has failed to contain the virus when it first appeared on their shores. What special magical powers do the Chinese have that everyone else doesn't? The only countries that have been successful in that respect have been the ones that went into full lockdown including closing their borders, e.g. New Zealand. Even if China had done that by the time the virus was seen as a serious threat (don't forget, some people at the time were dismissing it as another scare story, that it would blow over like previous SARS-like infections) it would've already been too late to have stopped it spreading to other countries. I read somewhere that with some of the early cases in France they think infection took place late autumn 2019, before it became newsworthy...

The King is back. Long live The King!...

I'm currently grateful for buying too many Christmas mince pies which I smugly scoff knowing that North Korean's could never dream of such western decadences... More mulled wine Comrade?...

As long as the Gov doesn't start massaging the figures like it does with testing...

malumbu, wouldn't it be quicker if you just wrote out our views yourself?...

diable rouge Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Trinnydad Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > The style is very similar and BB has been > accused of > > multiple IDs before. > > > It's been a while since BB was accused of multiple > IDs, I'm guessing before your time as Trinnydad. > If that's the case, care to tell us what you're > previous ID('s) were?... Mystery solved...

There is at least one Tory politician having a 'good' pandemic, Neil O'Brien, who has challenged the Mail and Telegraph for platforming anti-lockdowners, Covid deniers, anti-vaxxers et al, like the hideous Toby Young...

Give me quality over quantity any day. The incompetent fucker should've resigned over the abject failure to protect the most vulnerable in care homes...

I don't get Johnson, the Gov had a chance to get ahead of the virus for once with respect to it's spread outside of London, and yet he dithers again. It's like he has to see something bad happen before he believes something bad will happen. The same mistakes over and over again. It's pathological...

I get the impression that seabag knows more about fish on a plate than in a net... :)

It's a shame but very predictable that vaccine procurement and roll-out has become another part of the on-going culture war by certain elements. Producing the vaccines has been an international effort within the scientific community, Pfizer being an example where you have a US parent company working with a German start-up company formed by 2nd generation Turkish, manufactured in Belgium, and there will be many nationalities working within each. I'm sure it's likewise with the Oxford/AstraZeneca set-up. Instead of trying to score cheap political points try and be thankful that such effective vaccines have been found so comparatively quickly, regardless of who, where, or how they came about. That's what we should be feeling fortunate about...