diable rouge

Week 18 points... Week 18 table...

Burt Sugarman's Midnight Special :)...

Right on cue... I believe in the power of doing things together! Boris Johnson, speaking in Scotland, ignoring the fact that he's just taken the UK out of the EU

One man's proboscis is another man's prostate...

KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > They have no sovereignty they probably feel. One of the problems that the Pro-Union side has, is that some of the 'benefits' of leaving the EU that were trumpeted by Johnson/Vote Leave, can also be thrown back at them by the Indies...

Seeing polls saying 60+% of Tory voters were prepared for the break-up of the Union if it meant delivering Brexit, didn't go down well...

There's that lack of self-awareness again...:)

Keep plugging away Spartacus, as I said before, you're now embarrassing yourself...

TheCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > diable rouge Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Spartacus Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > > > it was you who called me "Stupidcus" yet I've > > > never resorted to calling you names > > > > Well, if you insist on posting stupid comments. > > How's your 'state sponsored genocide' plan > > going?... > > DR, there does seem to be quite prevalent attitude > on here along the lines of "well if someone says > something 'stupid' they're going to get 'called > out' for it" (not your words (that I've seen), to > be fair)....but is that really how we collectively > want the vibe of this forum to be? SO people are > hesitant to express a view? When people feel > attacked for saying what they think, their > inclination will be to 'dig in/double > down'...whereas if they feel there is a decent two > way street, then they may concede certain points > and end up softening their view anyway. That assumes that a poster is inclined to soften their view. I'm not sure that's the case with some posters. If you look at the 'Deniers' thread I did exactly that and he double downed. > And who is the arbiter of a 'stupid'? comment > anyway? Perhaps trying to understand why someone > has said something that you think is 'stupid' > might be a more productive use of keystrokes? I understood what he said, and indeed kept saying. Context is everything...

Well, I certainly wouldn't advocate what you said, instead I think education is the key, but as KK has pointed out, you will always get a hardcore that won't have the vaccine for whatever reason, I'm afraid that goes with the territory of a modern, functioning democracy. The question is what level of take-up is required to make the anti-vaxxers irrelevant/redundant? Do we actually need 100% take-up? We already have a high percentage of people who are happy to have the vaccine compared to a lot of other countries, from memory in the low 80's, and I'd expect that to go higher. Also, what are the conditions that cause a virus to mutate? I'm sorry, you making me PM doesn't give me special powers to answer that, but I read somewhere that one reason could be the heavy viral loads that built-up when the schools and universities went back [insert criticism of another Gov failure here], which if the case could mean it's unlikely that the anti-vaxxers would cause a mutation themselves as they are a dispersed grouping, what with them tapping away on their keyboards all day and night in their 'command centre'. Regardless, I'd listen to the science and follow it, something this Gov has failed to do, most notably prior to this deadly third wave. And as an aside, there's no point the UK having a successful vaccine take-up if other countries don't, it needs to be a global effort, so 'vaccine nationalism' can fook right off. So, vote DR for a brighter, happier future, and more importantly the banning of Spartacus' corny jokes...

Spartacus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > it was you who called me "Stupidcus" yet I've > never resorted to calling you names Well, if you insist on posting stupid comments. How's your 'state sponsored genocide' plan going?...

Spartacus, get a grip, you're embarrassing yourself...

100...

Spartacus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Reaching a middle ground involves talking, > listening and compromise on both sides otherwise > it becomes a place of toxicity. The lack of self-awareness is strong in this one...

Ah, trying to move the goalposts now are we Spartacus? Your earlier post quite clearly stated that those that don't have the vaccine shouldn't get any medical treatment, and when I questioned why some might not want to take it, you said they would have to be educated and if failing that, reiterated they shouldn't receive medical treatment. That has serious consequences, resulting in many simply being left to die. People will draw their own conclusions as to whether they think you're in favour, or not, of a form of 'state sponsored genocide'...

Imagine the scene, autumn 2021. Many of the tens of thousands of people who refused to have a vaccine have ultimately caught Covid. Coughing and spluttering away they could at first be forgiven for having an early seasonal cold, but the biometric 'Covid Star' tattooed onto the back of their hand is a give-away. Not entitled to any medical treatment as part of the glorious leader's 'solution', they try and go about their daily business as normal, but their is no sanctuary. Their homes are daubed with graffiti, and when they dare to venture outside, passers-by frown at them and cross the road, making sure to avoid eye contact. Some hurl insults, reminding them that it's only a matter of time before they are rounded up and sent to the 'holding-camps', that only 6 months earlier had been re-education facilities, in the vain hope that they could be convinced to have the vaccine. At least this way the public don't have to witness as their condition worsens, doctors and nurses won't have to wrestle with their conscience when some manage to break through a hospital's security cordon, banging on windows in a vain attempt to get help. No one has to worry about a sick relative, friend, or neighbour. Or seeing someone suffering a slow, painful death, and having to witness their last dying gasps of breath. After all, they had it coming to them...

Spartacus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > After all they don't believe Covid exists or think > it's a government conspiracy so they won't catch > it so won't need treatment What about those that are genuinely worried about possible side effects, is it safe etc?...

KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Trolley Snatcha Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > Hi Bob / Steven...! Another Bloow-in from Surbiton...

Who let him out of his panic room?...

...or as they like to call me, Justin

''Don't worry, it's only a little prick...''

A reminder that after getting the vaccine, people should still socially distance, wear a mask etc, as it won't prevent you from catching the virus and potentially passing it on. The Gov should really be hammering this point home to people. At Biden's inauguration last week, noticed quite a few people were 'double masking'... Useful article by @j_g_allen on importance of face masks: Homemade masks are 50% efficient Blue surgical mask 60-80% efficient For maximal protection use cloth mask over surgical mask 90% efficient

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This is the original photo...honest!