pk

i don't get these posts although i appreciate the you mean well shouldn't you hand in such lost property to the police station (where most people will go when they've lost something, if only to get a ref number for an insurance claim)? or have you done that too and are just flagging that it's been found?

i'd certainly agree that it's piddling - especially as it seems she generally doesn't get away with it to me it's effectively just begging (with a sob story, but nothing new there). (obviously i appreciate that her style of begging involves calling on people at home) dialling 999, chasing her, citizen's arrest - all a waste of time and an overreaction in my eyes

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes I realise that pk... doesn't change the fact > that "black", "asian", "white", etc are all > perfectly valid and inoffensive ways of describing > someone. in certain circumstances i agree, have i suggested otherwise? So the OP didn't include any other > description... lack of detail is not a crime. have i suggested that it is a crime? > By all means continue to preach over-the-top > PCness what's over the top? i said that people are more likely to be discriminated against for being black than for being tall or blond - i pointed out why i think people would not respond in the example that you yourself set out - sorry if that offends you (well not really sorry). you think that that's OTT? if it makes you feel better about yourself. > I should have known better than to get involved...

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I agree, it is not especially useful without any > further description (height, approx age) to go > on. > > But if she had just said "a tall man", or "a blond > haired man", people wouldn't be jumping on that. perhaps that's because discrimination on the basis of race is a problem and discrimination on the basis of height or hair colour isn't (IMO)? do you not appreciate that some people have negative stereotypes about black people (or perhaps people of certain religions) that they do not have about tall or blond people?

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What's the point of following a religion/church if > you're going to pick and choose what to believe? the point is that you choose the bits that you believe to be right, rather than following blindly and without questioning to me this sounds sensible and over time i'm sure assists religions to develop (albeit not so that they actually keep up with the world around them)

for the record, i also agree that the stance on the use of condoms is entirely unrealistic (in terms of expecting people to abstain) and therefore is not good in terms of slowing the spread of HIV, fortunately many catholics choose not to follow the advice (but unfortunately many also follow it)

dulwichmum Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Oh look! > > The pope wants to beatify a Nazi now. > > Dear me, whatever next. nothing in that article suggests that he was nazi - it seems that the perspective of some jews is that he failed adequately to speak out but they don't seem to be suggesting that he was himself a nazi - this is a sensational conclusion that you've chosen to draw yourself (i am guessing without caring too much about the facts) again, i don't know the facts so i'd rather not comment on whether he was a nazi or not, but to me 'nazi-era' does not equal nazi anyway, can't be bothered trying to justify logic to the illogical to get back to the theme of this thread - i'd be interested to here how the alpha course experience progresses, so please keep us informed

dulwichmum Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Well, how convenient for you that those who have > been abused as children by adults in a position of > trust and authority, are statistically more likely > to end up disengaged with society and on the wrong > side of the law. > > Being an "ex con" as you so nicely put it, does > not mean that your word is worth nothing. How > very convenient for the Roman Catholic Church that > there are those in its congregation who seem to > believe it does. Wouldn't it be just frightful if > that income stream were to dry up. > > You do know that Jesus spent some time inside > sweetie, don't you? i find this kind of smug illogical and arrogant argument really unhelpful - because i choose not to make sweeping generalisations without knowledge of the facts and i don't change this view in reliance on a couple of links you post (quoting unnamed sources) you get carried away with yourself and imply things that i've not even hinted at - whatever for similar reasons (about fact and evidence) i am unconvinced by the words of jesus

dulwichmum Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > OHMYGOD! > > So, you would not be prepared to believe the > evidence of those against whom these offences have > been committed because they may have ended up > becoming "ex cons" as you put it. How nice to > live in your world. > > Many of these "ex cons" are named. > > Much of their evidence is substantiated. > > Many of these vile preditors have admitted their > offences anyway. as i said, i don't know enough about the facts and therefore choose not to make unsubstantiated generalisations, the reference to 'excons' was in relation to the article you posted: "The sick goings on inside the Curragh Prison are laid bare by a former inmate" which i don't find too compelling

dulwichmum Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > No, I do not. But I do believe that the Roman > Catholic church is an organisation that goes out > of its way to accommodate them. my comments have been around the use of offensive, inaccurate generalisations against followers of the catholic faith, not about 'the church' which i have intentionally not commented on (not least because i don't know enough of the facts and don't find 'evidence' based on the testimony of unnamed ex-cons that reliable)

dulwichmum Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > pk Wrote: > > > i've never really understood why people are so > > comfortable insulting the catholic community > > Try this pair of priests on for size: > > The Roman Catholic church facilitated these vipers > by moving them on, into further positions of trust > instead of handing them over to the authorities. > And these two, were at one time working in the > same small parish! Shame on the lot of them. i doubt that this is who he was referring to when he was talking about e.g. banging out babies out each year do you believe that it fair to say that catholics (as a group) support paedophilia?

snorky Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > pk Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > indiepanda Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > snorky Wrote: > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ----- > > > > Why does the Pope still force followers of > > his > > > > brand of religion to live shitty, poverty > > > ridden > > > > lives , banging out kids every year or so , > > cos > > > > they cant use decent contraception - is > this > > > the > > > > same god ? > > > > > > I am no great fan of the catholic church > having > > > been raised a catholic, but this is a bit > > > overstated. > > > > it's offensive and probably intended to be so > > > > i've never really understood why people are so > > comfortable insulting the catholic community > > > > really ? yes, really to me, to describe people as being forced to live shitty, poverty ridden lives is likely to be offensive to those people obviously not to you any other groups you think should be insulted for the lives they choose to live? what are your views on the lives of the many millions of muslims in the world for example?

indiepanda Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > snorky Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Why does the Pope still force followers of his > > brand of religion to live shitty, poverty > ridden > > lives , banging out kids every year or so , cos > > they cant use decent contraception - is this > the > > same god ? > > I am no great fan of the catholic church having > been raised a catholic, but this is a bit > overstated. it's offensive and probably intended to be so i've never really understood why people are so comfortable insulting the catholic community

Ted Max Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Actually, looking at that, you can have "1 pie 2 > mash for 2.95", or "pie 2 mash for 4.10". > > I'm worried now. What's in "pie" that isn't in "1 > pie" to justify the premium? i think that the ?4.10 option is for 2 pie 2 mash, but the first 2 has fallen off

mockney piers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > If the nobody-you've-shagged-rule had been applied > they'd have all been about half as full. > > so all your mates have shagged half of there wedding guests!?! wrt to the original question here - i think that she's well within her rights and don't even think that it shows any particular insecurity or unreasonableness on her part (i am a bloke)

lard Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > As an aside what is the attraction of coffee shops > amongst people with kids? i am pretty sure that the answer's caffeine

MrsClive3300 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I saw it was them fighting each other - > not 'end of year screeching' to be honest (i know > this is going to be very unpopular) i would rather > they were fighting amongst themselves and not > attacking the rest of us, I too think they are > animals and wish they could all be locked away so > i dont have to see them so who are 'they' and what makes you think that the victim was also one of 'them'?

chuff Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > i'm confused... was it just noisy girls? or were > they harrassing another girl/s? apparently they don't want to share this information

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Fuzzy's Grub - a complete roast dinner, inside a > sandwich. Might go for the beef today... i'm a fan, but i've heard that (despite the queues) they're in trouble financially

ruffers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Marmora Man Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Friends of mine are selling these elegant T > shirts > > to make a statement about our esteemed MP - > > Harriet Harman. Should you be interested in > > purchasing one at a bargain price of ?9.50 - PM > > me. > > > > You could always use HH's image to polish the > car > > or dust the house with! > > Maybe I missed it or I don't do subtle, or maybe > it's just because it's half past midnight, but the > statement being made escapes me. Can you explain > it for the hard of thinking please? i was wondering the same too how are the sales going? do people want this kinda stuff? (edited for shocking typo)

so essentially this thread could be titled - "is your house being repossessed?" "and if so, do you feel guilty now" i guess that anyone who's house is being repossessed has more pressing problems then feeling guilty about the plight of their lender

i used to work in the publishing industry and it's just how it works magazines that are free to the reader generally (and understanbly) see their customers as those that advertise rather than those that read - so the intention from launch isn't let's make a magazine than our readers will want to read (and to be honest tho i look at living south i certainly wouldn't pay for it) it's let's make a mag that we can sell some ads into

it's how they make money, you don't buy the mag so they've got to be nice to those that do pay for it i can live with it

they might be resurfacing the pavement too, they've done so in parts of nunhead

so the lesson to learn is: if you ask for cashback, make sure that you collect it if the scenario reported is indeed some sort of criminal scheme, i've got to say i wouldn't have too much sympathy for victims that can't remember to collect cash that asked for a few seconds beforehand from a person a few feet away whether criminal distraction tactics are used or not