Such a lot of generalising. Huge, You surprise me with your comment above - which I'm hoping you meant tongue in cheek - regarding the "assumption that squatters are reasonable". I moved to London in the early 80s and ended up squatting on the Pullens Estate in E&C. 50% of the flats were empty and the whole estate was in a terrible state of neglect by Southwark council which wanted to knock the buildings down. The residents invited squatters onto the estate and to cut a long story short the Pullens Estate, which is a rare example of Victorian artisan dwellings, is now a conservation area with extremely desirable properties. The original squatters were eventually given tenancies on the flats by the council and most are still social housing. None of this would have happended and the estate would have been razed were it not for the care and tenacity of the original residents, squatters and tenants. Pullens