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My opinion is that the new flats should be demolished and rebuilt where they should have been. The current residents rehoused at the developers? expense until the flats are rebuilt and lawful. I know this we create a lot of upheaval for the current residents but I?m sure they could seek compensation from the developer in the courts.

Brendan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Not in the current market Mick. To buy a ?300K > property you will need at least ?60 deposit plus a > few grand for legal fees etc. I know I?ve just > tried to do it. > Plus the ?9k you'll need for the stamp duty, quite a sizable chunk out of any deposit you managed to save.

I agree with you, this stretch down towards Stuart Road has poor street lighting. I walk down here most nights, never had a problem at the Waveney estate end. The other end outside the Rye Hill Tenants association building is a lot more rowdy on some nights but again never had a problem. I think as the nights get warmer and clearer there seems to be a lot more issues with antisocial behaviour.

Rye lay is shot to the formation level. The trenching by the utilities has compromised the integrity of the road and the evidence is clear to see to all with rutting, hard and soft spots, reflective cracking etcetera. I standard 30mm plane and resurface with a stone mastic asphalt will not suffice or it will look the same by this time next year. It needs to be reconstructed with rigid construction so future trenching by the utilities can reinstated and tied in. I would think you could spend most of Southwark?s annual maintenance budget on the stretch from Heaton Road to Elm Grove. Southwark would need to put it as a separate scheme in the Local Implementation Plan (LIP) for funds. When is Thames Water due to replace the water main on Rye Lane?

http://www.bestofbrighton.co.uk/ I'd would go for Adelaide Manisons myself in Hove. I used to live at the opposite the building for 4 years, lovely building at the end of First Avenue overlooking the lawns and the beach. Not far to Brighton and away from the noise.

It will be at the 72 floor by October so twice the height of Guys. It is great that there will be a building in London at last with a public viewing platform. Apparently Guys Hospital is going to be reclad but I?ve heard rumours that this is a bit half arsed and won?t do much to enhance the block. Some webcams http://www.siteeyelive.com/monitor/shard/camputer64.jpg http://www.siteeyelive.com/monitor/shard/camputer120.jpg http://www.siteeyelive.com/monitor/shard/camputer95.jpg

There is pretty much a blanket 30mph zone covering all of the residential areas in the UK. Do we really think that introducing a blanket 20mph zone all drivers will suddenly drive at this new speed limit when they didn?t drive at 30mph before? The only way a 20mph zone will work is with lots of speed reducing features so it is physically impossible to drive faster but will cost a fortune or by camera enforcement which really is not popular.

I?m going to miss it, good music, no adverts, no Chris Moyles, no Chris Evans and no Steve Wright with his bloody factoids.

JBARBER Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm not sure replacing countdown displays at East > Dulwich bus stops with SMS texts messages has been > thought through. What's the one thing Police tell > you not to do - flash your mobiles around. What's > the one thing TfL are now telling us to do at bus > stops - flash your mobiles around. Also, paying > 20p to find out what the buses are doing because > you cant rely on the timetables isn't custoemr > focused. > > My day job is in Telecomms and IT. London has > 19,000 bus stops. To connect then up via digitial > radios or broadband would be a drop in the ocean > compared to the current bus subsidies. To remotely > control street lights costs ?40 per street light > and ?5,000 for the controller. Add a desplay > costing ?200 ea including installation and you're > looking at ?5m including project management > costs. > > As I said I'll find the details I've been sent and > add them onto this thread. Don?t forget the power supply, not all bus stops have power. If you assume half of all bus stops do not and with EDF currently charging ?500 per connection with no trenching, you can double that figure you?ve quoted. Then you?ve got on-going maintenance of the infrastructure and electricity bills. It would be quite a whack out of TfL budget which would probably be better spent on providing more buses on infrequent routes than giving an electricity company lots of money. Not flashing your mobiles at bus stops aside. Lots of people have internet access on them now so you will be able to access the real time information for free.

They are going down the text message and internet route, which is better value for money than installing expensive LCD countdown displays at lots of bus stops and putting fares up to pay for it. All explained here. http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/projectsandschemes/11560.aspx

Err no. The Highway Authority should avoid trapping reasonable road users into danger, for example introducing hidden danger. The road user is an intelligent being, able and expected to exercise their own judgement. The Highway Authority should not act irrationally. I would say those pedestrians were using their own judgement. I am glad I live in a country where I can cross the road where I feel safe to do so without breaking the law!

Road users are responsible for their own safety and have a duty to take the road as they find it. That is taken from the Road Traffic Act. I read it as if you do not feel safe or confident doing something then do not do it. If it was written that the Government was responsible for road users safety we would be in to a nanny state territory with fines for not using subways and footbridges and alike. Look at this photo I took the other day while standing on a very expensive pedestrian footbridge. Oh and that is the north circular at Golders Green Road, so pretty busy and fast urban motorway. Are the people crossing the road at grade and not using the bridge irresponsible? (If anyone says there should be pedestrian crossing facilities as people do not like using footbridges and subways. This was proposed but the large Jewish population discounted that as pressing the wait button on the signals is classed as work there they would not do it on the Sabbath.)

If your houses was built before 1901 then it is the responsibility of Thames Water.

PeckhamRose: You?re only a criminal if you pass the solid white stop line at red. If you passed over it at green and only clear the junction once the lights have reverted to red you have done nothing wrong. Nunheadmum: Of course it is easy to make temporary signals with pedestrian phases, however it is nothing to do with this and it is to do with all the legislation to back it all up. Blame the legal profession. Weren?t there some individuals on this forum advocating the removal of all traffic lights to ?smooth? traffic flow recently? So how would they expect pedestrians to cross then? It is a bit of a dilemma. I would be for a trial for certain junctions after 9pm to be switched off until 5am.

I would guess you know nunhead has its own forum.... http://nunheadforum.co.uk/

JBARBER Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Adding some yellow lines shouldn't take many weeks > to employ contractor, etc. Advertising and sealing the traffic orders could take up to 6 to 9 weeks. Longer if there are objections

If the building is not in a conservation area or listed it is easy to have them knocked down. It?s a shame though, it was a good substantial building and being replaced with something nondescript

Perhaps you?re right, perhaps someone should write to the manufacturers. The trouble is every junction is different, it would be quite hard to take portable lights off the shelf to fit every situation out there. Then all the stuff you would need push buttons etc. It would be like installing a set of fixed traffic lights. Actually you need to start right at the top with the Government. Pedestrian signals on portable traffic signals are not ?type approved? therefore would not be enforceable. The regulations can be found here. http://www.opsi.gov.uk/SI/si1997/19972400.htm So you need to write to the Government to update this Statutory Instrument then get a manufacturer to make some.

Sandperson Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I cycle to work through the Aylesbury estate and > there has been on going road works at the junction > of Albany Rd and Thurlow St. This is a T junction, > not a cross roads, but the temporary traffic > lights (the kind they have set in red and white > painted barrels of concrete) have pedestrian > controls on them. This is a much less pedestrian > traffic heavy junction than the one we are talking > about so why weren't the same provisions made for > peds here? I know this junction. The signals are being modernised under the TfL?s rolling programme. All signals over 20 years old are being replaced like-for-like. Therefore it is possible for the contractor to stick the old ones in barrels while the new ones fitted. The works on East Dulwich Road Peckham Rye were emergency gas works. The contractors turned off the fixed lights. Unfortunately portable traffic signals do not come with pedestrian crossing facilities.

So how would you make this junction safer? I would like to see splitter island on all arms, like the one on the northern Peckham Rye arm so offside secondary signals can be provided. Especially important if large vehicles are in the nearside lane and you have two lanes on the approaches as is East Dulwich and Nunhead lane. Also splitter islands provide physical protection to waiting traffic to turn right, so you?re not sat in the middle of the junction with looking straight ahead at the on coming traffic. It has controlled pedestrian crossing facilities on all arms with an all red stage. (no traffic moves while pedestrians cross). You cannot get any better than that. Most right turns are banned except Nunhead Lane to Peckham Rye north for buses only. The only right turn possible for all vehicles is East Dulwich Road to Peckham Rye southbound. I can?t imagine there are many injury accidents associated with this movement probably lots of damage only (broken headlights and egos) I would not consider pedestrian guardrailings, as the radii of the kerbs are tight and this could become a pinch point for cyclists where they become crushed between the railings and the turning vehicle (as what happened to that poor lady at Elephant and Castle last year). Also owing to the numbers of child pedestrians the railings would block the sight lines between drivers and small children (visi-rail railing would not work as the radii are too tight). The eastbound approach has a falling gradient so approach speeds are fast. People on here are complaining that other drivers jump the lights reducing the opportunity for right turns. So I would suggest introducing splitter islands as I described earlier then look at installing red light running cameras with speed on green function on the Nunhead Lane and East Dulwich Road arms. This will catch drivers jumping the lights and also drivers speeding through the junction when the lights are green. Anyone else got any ideas?

Ramble66 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes a filter light is needed. Esp turning right > from East Dulwich road. To do this you have to go > in to the yellow box and wait for the on coming > traffic to eventually stop going through on > amber/red and then turn nearly always once the > traffic to the right has started to move. You > just can't turn otherwise. Even cyclists go > through from Nunhead side to east dulwich side on > red, I've nearly caught one when the cars have > eventually stopped and I go to finish turning > right. > > There is a right filter on the lights at goose > green why not at the rye? > > It is so tragic about the little girl, I just hope > they actually make the junction safer. Just so you get the terms correct when you ask the authorities for this arrow on the signals, a traffic signal lesson. What you are asking for is called and INDICATIVE arrow which comes on at the end of the green signal stage to show you that the opposing traffic has been stopped and you can turn right. A FILTER arrow is different and comes on before the main green signal and usually is used for traffic to filter left, it will also go off when the main signal goes green. One down side you will have to put up with is the indicative signal is that it will result in the opposing traffic stream having less green signal time which will mean more delays and queues. If you can accept this then it is not a problem. One thing that is done at these types of junction to try and make them safer is not allowing drivers to see the signals once they have entered the junction to turn right (closely associated secondary signals). You can see this on the photo I?ve attached of a junction in Dagenham. This puts the responsibility on the driver to make sure it is clear of traffic before they turn right instead of them watching the traffic lights.

Owing to there being a fatality the police treat it has a crime scene therefore any parties involved get arrested. I was on an advance road safety course last week. We discussed Highway Risk and Liability Claims. These are a few statements relating to the 1980s Highways Act which I think put things into perspective. Road users are responsible for their own safety and have a duty to take the road as they find it. The highway authority should avoid trapping reasonable users into danger. A highway authority should not act irrationally. Ok, the permanent signals were out including the pedestrian facilities, this was clear to all and not a trap. Would it be rational to provide special facilities while these temporary works were undertaken? Would that mean every temporary works in London would require special treatment? Yes a little girl has died and that is terrible, I am confident the police will investigate this matter and if anyone is at fault they will be prosecuted.

It?s a difficult one this. You either have large signs at the entrance of the controlled zone or hundreds and hundreds of individual sign plates for each single yellow line. It is down to cost and limiting the amount of street clutter.

Ok you obviously know more than me as it has been a number of years since I played with temporary signals. This is how I remember the phase controller for portable signals looking for 4-way control (Picture). I cannot see how you link two phases to be green at the same time without the conflict light coming on.

They are temporary signals you cannot phase them like the permanent signals owing to limitations in the equipment and lack of signage on the temporary signals to display banned turns and exceptions. Temporary signals also lack any features like the fixed signals to vary their timings dependant on demand, which is making the problem worse.