march46

Interesting piece in the Times on Lambeth?s low traffic neighbourhoods today https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/results-of-low-traffic-neighbourhoods-speak-for-themselves-pjdtnkvtd

Love seeing the positive images put out by Clean Air Dulwich. So many people are benefitting from the roads being safer.

They weren't all on the pavement. As with the last One Dulwich protest, they tried to get car drivers to honk their support whilst at the same time disingenuously feign concern about air pollution. https://imgur.com/a/OYKf48s (edited to add photo)

Amazing to see this

They are open, it?s a nice shop - very welcoming and helpful. Great addition to the community.

Not sure why it should be linked to the other side of the road. There used to be parked cars there - the space for moving traffic is no narrower than it was before.

Sorry I may have missed it but have bus journey times been published somewhere? Bus journey times along Lordship Lane could be improved significantly by freeing the bus lane of parked cars.

So their alternative is effectively a return to the past, unsurprising. If anyone needs a reminder of how that was see Re ANPR timed restrictions not being listed as an option in the review, suspect it's because it isn't a practical or safe option - as was discussed during OHS consultation. Interesting that only 9% of Court Lane residents want to see the junction re-opened to cars. Suspect if the survey had removed the unfeasible option of timed restrictions there would be significantly more wanting to see the current scheme made permanent.

There's a link to the recent council newsletter about the changes here in case anyone missed it. https://consultations.southwark.gov.uk/environment-leisure/dulwich-review/supporting_documents/Dulwich%202nd%20Newsletter.pdf

Who knows, there are no speed cameras unfortunately.

Well said Sanda. Many drivers are 'missing' the 20mph signs too, is anyone suggesting they aren't visible enough?

How does someone get in touch with the ?Fair Air for East Dulwich? group if they have questions? Such as, who will be supplying the diffusion tubes? I?ve tried to get some through Friends of the Earth but believe their scheme has unfortunately ended.

Not sure why the roadworks haven't been carried out overnight, given it's such a major route.

Which is why a School Street is some form would be good, to encourage parents not to drive (or at least not to drive as close to the school as possible, and park badly)

This is an interesting analysis and investigation of commonplace data. Thousands of fake accounts submitting responses, operated by a single overseas server. The lengths some people go to to oppose active travel measures is astonishing! https://www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/2021/02/18/consultation-rigging-trolls-get-councils-goat-over-bridge-closures/?__twitter_impression=true&sh=6d28e5802b93 The publicly available data used by One Dulwich/Dulwich Alliance presumably doesn?t show individual accounts, so how do they know if one person submitted multiple responses? This seems to be a major flaw in their report.

eastdulwichhenry Wrote: > > Who cares how many emails they've received? > Decisions are not made based on the number of > angry people that write in. There's going to be a > proper study done towards the end of the year, and > we'll see what happens then. My sense is that more > people are in favour of the LTN than against it, > particularly now that the early teething problems > have largely gone away, but who knows. Well said. It shouldn't be a case of the loudest voice etc, although this forum is that all over. It's no wonder many choose not to engage here.

Rockets there is no confusion between cycling lanes and LTNs in the ambulance service's responses despite you suggesting an attempt to mislead in the article. Further details below. https://www.cyclinguk.org/sites/default/files/document/2021/02/2101_ambulance-trusts-summary_of_responses_to_cycling_uks_fois.pdf

I see Dulwich Alliance are no longer listing the Dulwich Picture Gallery as one of their supporters. Were they not aware they'd be included I wonder?

Great! That road has needed a School Street for a long time.

Interesting how you blame the council, when there was always traffic there https://twitter.com/cleanairdulwich/status/1305975196436885504?s=21 Foggy-minded indeed! n dulwich northerner Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks to Southwark's foggy-minded road closure > schemes, this morning the tailback in Dulwich > Village extended from the northern set of lights > to those in the centre.

FairTgirl Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > legalalien Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > (at the risk of being slightly off topic - I > think > > 2(a) should refer to ED Grove not ED Road. > They > > might need a new sign... > > > > Question: is there a reason why they couldn't > > move the barrier at the GV end a bit further > > towards EDG, so that there is parking outside > the > > shops that can be accessed from GV but no > through > > route? Because that would seem like an obvious > > compromise. (Doesn't fix the problem of > traffic > > on EDG but not sure how much of that is caused > by > > these closures as opposed to the Dulwich > Village > > ones? > > That question has been asked numerous times. Nine > weeks and still no answers as to why not. Is this something you / the businesses would support?

Shame it?s not the whole length of Lordship to help prioritise public transport.

FairTgirl Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- northernmonkey Wrote: > Geuninely, any advice on using public transport to > get several kids from Bellenden area to Dulwich > Sports Ground - as that also hosts many clubs. Not sure re public transport but it?s a comfortable bike ride since the filters have gone in on Dulwich Square and Melbourne Grove. I cycled from your direction every day for Summer clubs with two 6 years old and a 4 year old. Route as per northern monkey above works well - Calton, through Dulwich Square then Turney. 10 mins.

ianr Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Given that the experiment has been implemented, is > there any virtue in allowing some time to see how > it works out before reaching any definite > conclusions or making any demands? This.

This article is a good read - https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/20/the-new-road-rage-bitter-rows-break-out-over-uks-low-traffic-neighbourhoods?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&__twitter_impression=true