Trains cancellations - latest

[KidKruger]

slight distraction - but has the Denmark Hill/Peckham Rye train to Highbury really stopped running straight-through ?

I checked a week or so ago and it looks like now the only way to make the Overground train journey is by changing at Canary Wharf.

[Zebedee Tring]

The Overground doesn't go to Canary Wharf. You can change at any station as far as Dalston Junction.

[Jeremy]

Yep, it really has stopped running direct to H&I. Another nail in the coffin.

[Penguin68]

I checked a week or so ago and it looks like now the only way to make the Overground train journey is by changing at Canary Wharf.

Did you mean Canada Water?

[rendelharris]

KidKruger Wrote:

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> slight distraction - but has the Denmark

> Hill/Peckham Rye train to Highbury really stopped

> running straight-through ?

> I checked a week or so ago and it looks like now

> the only way to make the Overground train journey

> is by changing at Canary Wharf.

Hasn't it always been like that? Certainly there are no direct trains on the current timetable (from May 15th) but as far as I recall it's always been necessary to change at one of the stations between Canada Water and Dalston Junction to get to H&I. Perfectly willing to stand corrected but I really can't remember there ever being a direct service - and I was living in Denmark Hill when the line opened.

[Sue]

I'm pretty sure there was a direct service, because I was mega pissed off when it started.

I used to work in Islington and it was a pain in the **** to get to from ED, so that service would have saved me hours of commuting ......

Sadly I left the job before the train started running .....

[Ladygooner]

KidKruger Wrote:

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> slight distraction - but has the Denmark

> Hill/Peckham Rye train to Highbury really stopped

> running straight-through ?

> I checked a week or so ago and it looks like now

> the only way to make the Overground train journey

> is by changing at Canary Wharf.

Yes hasn't been running direct since January

[Lynne]

Took 4 trains today, Ed to LB. Every one late

[KidKruger]

Yeah penguin I meant Canada Water I think.

I used to use it (and gloat about how roomy it was on here).

Feck it, that was a decent (and well-subscribed) service.

[rendelharris]

Sue Wrote:

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> I'm pretty sure there was a direct service,

> because I was mega pissed off when it started.

>

> I used to work in Islington and it was a pain in

> the **** to get to from ED, so that service would

> have saved me hours of commuting ......

>

> Sadly I left the job before the train started

> running .....

I stand corrected by Mrs H - when she was working up near H&I four years ago apparently there was a direct train from Denmark Hill. My bad.

[LouiseC]

Yes there was a H&I direct train daily up until a few months ago, oddly I think they may still run on weekends but not weekdays, I could be going mad but I'm sure I saw one on the departures board at Peckham Rye on the weekend?

[Nigello]

Station staff at Govia Thameslink Railway, including Southern, are to be balloted for strikes in a row over the impact of plans to close ticket offices, the RMT union said. (PA)

[Jeremy]

When the Overground was first introduced to PR/QRP, almost all the trains were direct to H&I. Seems like all of our transport is being gradually diminished.

[Penguin68]

The volume and extent of overground trains has actually increased over time, I suspect some linkages have been rationalised - I would hope on the basis of passenger surveys. The H&I trains run regularly through Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park to Canada Water and then up - so those on the PR route can readily change there. PR is on an east:west route, which crosses the north:south route (Croydon to H&I) at Canada Water - making that an interchange has some logic to it, and probably allows a larger number of trains to serve both routes.

[wulfhound]

They're turning some trains around at Dalston Junction - afaik the eventual plan is to have 20 trains per hour between Surrey Quays and Dalston, with half turning at Dalston and half at Highbury. But with 10 an hour to Highbury, it's never a long wait even if you have to change.

[Bic Basher]

PR and DH have direct trains to H&I on Sundays only. The reason why the through services were axed was to localise any issues, so by having all trains via Forest Hill, it only affects that line, leaving the SLL trains to run normally.

[cle]

How would the 20 trains per hour work? All four lines going from 4 to 5 each per hour?

[Bic Basher]

cle Wrote:

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> How would the 20 trains per hour work? All four

> lines going from 4 to 5 each per hour?

I thought the plan was to add another two trains per hour on the Clapham Junction and Crystal Palace branches, this would be 20 trains per hour between Dalston Junction and Surrey Quays.

New Cross and West Croydon would be left with 4 trains per hour each, Clapham Junction and Crystal Palace 6.

Currently 16 trains per hour run to Dalston Junction of which 8 continue to Highbury and Islington via Forest Hill.

[wulfhound]

Have heard the same as you Bic Basher, think they were talking about a 2018 or 2020 time frame for this.

The small unknown is whether Southern's failure leads to an early TfL takeover of its services, which share the the Forest Hill line.

[danielson00]

5 day strike announced, probably won't affect ED as its DOO already (Driver Only Operation) but may cause mayhem at London Bridge.

http://www.rmt.org.uk/news/members-updates/role-of-the-guard-and-extension-of-doo--southern-gtr280716/?preview=true

[Gilloc]

Where can you find copy of old train times to claim against does anyone know?

[Cedges]

LouiseC Wrote:

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> Yes there was a H&I direct train daily up until a

> few months ago, oddly I think they may still run

> on weekends but not weekdays, I could be going mad

> but I'm sure I saw one on the departures board at

> Peckham Rye on the weekend?

I'm pleased you said this because I was convinced I got one train to H&I direct from DH only a couple of weeks ago...but it was on a Sunday, so that explains it and I'm not going nuts. Thanks!

[andyjake]

There is a 5 day strike by Southern starting 8 August....

[Earl Aelfheah]

.. but will anyone really notice the difference?

[mikeb]

I've completely written off East and North Dulwich stations, now using Denmark Hill and Forest Hill plus cycling / running and buses. I think September will see the real impact of the timetable