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Jonboy, anyone who has eaten at Le Moulin would suggest that by LL standards, it most certainly is a yardstick (and perhaps nort of Watford too). Why is a piece of cheese "not on these days"? They are not a vegetarian restaurant, they offered an alternative to a meat dish (bare in mind she picked a meat dish in the first place) and for one of a few reasons came up with that! What do you expect? Blood out of a stone? It's British customer service for you. Full stop.. Trying to imagine that they have a whole host of fresh vegetables and whacky arty farty dishes off the top of some standard chef whos on no more than 12k a year is living in fantasy land. Sorry!

Louisa wrote:(bare in mind she picked a meat dish in the first place) and for one of a few reasons came up with that! What do you expect? Blood out of a stone? It's British customer service for you. Full stop.. Trying to imagine that they have a whole host of fresh vegetables and whacky arty farty dishes off the top of some standard chef whos on no more than 12k a year is living in fantasy land. Sorry


Louisa, were YOU the waitress I had the altercation with that other day in Liqourish?!!!


Why do you seem to be getting so worked up?


How do you think in your mind that mezze is a 'whacky arty farty dish'?


and lastly....we all have forum names we refer to each other as. Mine is Madworld74, not 'she'.

Ladygooner - I stand corrected on the ham/cheese quote :-)


Louisa, This is 2007. Vegetarians are not exactly a rare breed. Almost all kitchens stock a vast range of different staple items suitable for vegetarians to eat. I am sure the chef also went to catering school, where they learn to cook a number of different styles and using a wide range of ingredients. It really should not be beyond the wit of man to improvise something suitable for Madworld to eat.


It seems as though MW was given the cheese, not because the chef had nothing else, but because he was takng the p*ss. Simply not good enough as either the chef is incompetent or he is rude.


If you (ludicrously) dont have ingredients for a vegetarian dish, then say so - dont give people a bit of cheese.

Er. Im a veggie. yes.


if its not on the menu, then why should you be upset if the Chef/ Cook cant prepares something off the cuff for you ?


This isnt a 2000 place super resturant you are talking about - its a bar that does a bit of food


Would you go to Gordorn Ramseys and ask for the Lamb, but demand they prepare a vegitarian verison ?


of course not


YOu make do.


usually with gloopy cheese based dishes :(

London seems to have too many 'chefs'. I expect there's even a 'head chef' in a Wimpy these days.

The majority of these people aren't 'chefs', they're 'cooks'.

The bars-wot-do-food ponce-up the menus so they can hike-up the prices and say 'I'll talk to the chef' to give an air of grandeur. Actually, what they often mean is: I'll see if the unimaginative COOK who only knows how to do the 12 things on the menu can find something in the cupboard.


I don't believe it has anything to do with how much the person is paid, or whether you're in a top-flight restaurant or otherwise. I've been in sandwich bars with more imagination than some restaurants. Guess which places I go back to?


Budding CHEFS who make an effort to surprise and delight customers who ask for something slightly off-menu will actually progress in their chosen career. The others won't.

No-one is suggesting that a meat-free lamb be freshly slaughtered, but here


http://www.liquorish.com/menu.html


is a sample menu for the place, so its fair to assume these foodstuffs (or most of them) are on the premises most of the time. If the chef cannot be arsed to produce something better than a bit of cheese, he should be turned into sausages for the carnivores among us.

made me laugh (from the menu):

Vegetarian burger with homemade chunky chips & salad

(Extra toppings: stilton, bacon, mature cheddar or chilli salsa for 50p)


I find most of the places on LL over priced when it comes to food, or woefull. I know we're in London, but I fail to see why that means I can't get a decent bit of food for a tenner. (This is mostly eating in the bars/pubs, haven't tried the restaurants much). I will say that I thought Buddah Jazz and Franklins were great though (and annoyingly I have enjoyed a garlic gbk).


If that's their menu (to get back on topic), I really don't see why they couldn't have provided MW with something decent.

Assuming that the menu (as in Jonboy's link) was in force, the "chef" shouldn't have had any problems in producing a vegetarian mezze -It really wouldn't have been difficult. Sounds to me like he/she just couldn't be @rsed and decided to be pedantic.


I've worked with several chefs who like to throw a Ramsey style strop, as they think it makes them look big and clever. Generally the request isn't unreasonable but they just like to thow their weight around.

The online menu versus the current "actual" menu illustrates my point - something has gone wrong at the bar and we can talk till we are blue in the face but to sum up the facts (rather than opinions):


Some people have never liked Liqourish because of it's style - but lots of us like it for same reason

For people who like it, it has gone downhill within last 18 months or so

A recent appointment of new manager has yet to see an improvement

The real (as opposed to virtual) menu has shrunk and is inflexible

Service did not deal with a (slightly) awkward request very well

They are losing customers because of the above (and not the smoking ban)


That about sum it up? All the rest of the to-ing and fro-ing about what should and shouldn't be acceptable/possible in the outer reaches of zone2/zone3 is fun, but if I was the manager of the place I would like a quick summary of what the problem is (from a punter perspective)

Although what would be funny would be if Madworld74 posted something like..


"I've just realised I made a typo in my first post - all of the events happened but when I said Liqourice I was confusing the place with.. " [sniiiip - legal editor]

MadWorld, have you ever tried food from Boots? It can very tasty, and guess what, you can take it back and be fully refunded (statutory rights not affected) if its awful, unlike some of the restaurants you visit apparantly hehe


Next time I visit a steak house i'm gonna ask if they can substitute the steak for anything else.. Could be interesting..

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