Upsides of Brexit

[peckham_ryu]

That's enough bickering and doom merchanting now folks. Here's a space for making the best of it, assuming we don't get a reprieve. (If you really must rend your clothes, gnash your teeth and wear sackcloth and ashes for a few more days, there are other threads for you!).

Some upsides we can hope for?

More Aussies, Kiwis and Canucks.

Or to put it another way, these are countries I'd love to work in. Let them come freely, if they will do the same :-)

(Sorry USA, not you. Deal with guns laws and Mr Trump, then we'll talk!)

Rekindle the Protestant Work Ethic.

Someone is going to have to do all the jobs we've been leaving to our Central European guests. Scarily, it's going to have to be the notoriously difficult to manage British unskilled worker, with his misplaced sense of self-entitlement. With no choice but to put our compatriots to work, we will at last deal with this problem and rebuild our base of home-grown hard workers. (May require actual beatings. Luckily we can repeal the Human Rights Act as soon as we're out!)

Tourism Boom.

With the Pound worth so much less, more foreign visitors than ever will come to spend their cash on exorbitant National Trust ticket prices and Duck tours. And, as less of us can afford our fortnight in Spain or week in the Alps, now is the time to start setting up more pitches in the camping and caravan sites of our national parks.

See, I've almost convinced myself this can work ;-)

Help me out. What other good things are we going to see?

[Jules-and-Boo]

more foreign investment - embracing the rest of the world!

Wine from Oz!

A new Government.

[????]

Ignorant idiots will no longer be able to blame immigrants for their own problems

[Louisa]

We can concentrate on growing our own grapes for wine because tariffs on decent European wines will be extortionate.

Louisa.

[JoeLeg]

Strangely I like all of these!

[Seabag]

Chinese wine

Bent bananas

3kw kettles again

Repeats of Dads Army

[red devil]

No more prancing, preening foreign footballers falling over and feigning injury at the merest touch.

No more TV programmes like ''A Place n the Sun''. Instead it'll be ''A Wet Weekend in Skeggy or Margs'', depending on which side of Watford Gap you live...

[Jules-and-Boo]

we can have strawberry jam on toast, rather than 'conserve'

and hoovers that actually have some welly

[P.O.U.S.theWonderCat]

More Aussies, Kiwis and Canucks.

Or to put it another way, these are countries I'd love to work in. Let them come freely, if they will do the same :-)

(Sorry USA, not you. Deal with guns laws and Mr Trump, then we'll talk!)

Afraid not. They come for the work, in London at least for the prestige of working in the biggest financial centre outside of NY and the value of the pound to the dollar, all of which are in doubt.

The Aussies and Canadians I have spoken to are horrified at the anti-immigration sentiment, and some here are thinking of relocating as they don't feel comfortable now.

[heartblock]

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Yep - great.... Now the racists have been given permission to do this sort of thing. I'm now glad my Dad died in March and doesn't have to witness this appalling country. I wish I wasn't English.. But glad to be a Londoner. Go on tell me some more upsides.

[Loz]

Jules-and-Boo Wrote:

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> Wine from Oz!

Sadly, the price will skyrocket as the pound falls.

[uncleglen]

Costa etc will have to set up barista training courses for our school leavers and students

[heartblock]

Coffee prices will rise with a weak pound.

[WorkingMummy]

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[Azira]

Please do share this WM. Shout it from the rooftops. We are in serious danger of sleepwalking into very dark territory indeed.

I tried to tell one of my dear English friends about the xenophobia I've been subjected to over the years and she told me I'd misunderstood people. She was only prepared to accept without question my accounts of being told to go home recently on the basis that it was referendum mania.

I don't think it is remotely helpful to categorise the Brexiteers as all being racist/xenophobes, I do believe this has legitimised some terrible sections of society. We have to keep talking about what is happened. Evil happens when good people remain ignorant or turn a blind eye.

[WorkingMummy]

Part of the problem is that (as we were discussing on your thread) "Leave" is not really anything other than a slogan for disparate co-belligerents (some wanting to weaken their Tory colleagues in order to run for PM, some just naive and oversimplistic nostalgic old people who miss the 1960s because that's when they first had sex and yes, some out and out racists).

[Jules-and-Boo]

no, WM - that's not true. I think we've talked about not belittling other's opinions.

So we have racist 'Leave', Super Intelligent 'Remain', Lazy 'couldn't make my mind up'.....

let's not start on each other.

If this has pulled out the worst of any side - it's the worst of ALL sides - yes, Remain too. We now have NO governemt.

That woudl actually help. The fact our PM thought it best to run away from responsibility doesn't say much, does it.

This is not about immigration (as that covers SO many things) it's about the volume of people and the pressure on Infrastructure.

This is bordering on hysteria.

[DulwichFox]

So I voted to leave... Does that make me a Racist.. Many of you do not know the meaning of the word.

In spring 1978, 100,000 people marched six miles from Trafalgar Square to the East End of London (a National Front hotspot) for an open-air music festival at Victoria Park in Hackney organized by RAR (Rock Against Race)and the Anti-Nazi League, to counteract the growing wave of racist attacks in the UK.

I was there.. I was pelted with bottles along the route in my part of stamping out Racism..

I took part in Gay Pride marches despit not being Gay.

So do not dare suggest for 1 Minute I am Rasist, xenophobic, Homophobic, Sexist.

DulwichFox

[peckham_ryu]

Louisa Wrote:

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> We can concentrate on growing our own grapes for

> wine because tariffs on decent European wines will

> be extortionate.

>

> Louisa.

^^^so far the best upside on this thread. England produces some of the best wine in the world. Time to turn that into serious jobs! And better volumes. Yum.

As for the complaints about xenophobia: go back to your own thread(s) ;-)

I am a bit concerned though about the tariff barrier for decent Single Malts, when we have to start importing the stuff over the EU border (which will be at Hadrian's Wall). Finding the upside, I reckon we could distill ourselves some pretty mean hipster whisky right here. We've already got ale, gin and even mead in the area - I bet we could give the Highlands and Islands a run for their money :-)

[Azira]

Correct me if I've missed something, but I can't see where anyone is saying ALL Leave voters are racists other than Leave voters who are imputing that to Remainers.

[heartblock]

Pressure on infrastructure, volume of people....what people? Who? Azira? Portuguese nurses? German GPs, unemployed Welsh miners, who is putting pressure on infrastructure?

[JoeLeg]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> So I voted to leave... Does that make me a

> Racist.

I never said you were - in fact I took pains to point out that I definitely was not.

>

> So do not dare suggest for 1 Minute I am Rasist,

> xenophobic, Homophobic, Sexist.

>

As I say, I didn't do any of that. My disagreement with you is not of that nature. And it sounds like we were at some of the same events. As I say, it sounds like there's many things we would agree on. Just not Brexit.

I now return you to your regular thread.

[Jules-and-Boo]

British Champagne - cheaper transportation - good for local economy and a boost for the farmers markets since importing fruita nd veg will be expensive

[JoeLeg]

I'm actually quite a fan of British wine and champagne, and look forward to seeing what will give Lambrusco and bad Chenin Blamc a run for its money!

[heartblock]

We export veg to the EU - Hence Lincolnshire farrmer crying on 'independence Day'. Petrol prices will increase due to sterling/ dollar exchange rate. British sparkling wine is great but it is around ?25 a bottle and as there will not be any EU pickers the price will rise due to extra labour costs - I still need a better upside.

Try - London house prices will rise as Asian, Chinese and Russian entrepreneurs take advantage of the weak pound, but house prices in Wales, Cornwall and the North East plummet due to withdrawal of EU funds for new industry and Boris the new PM concentrating all,his energies to shore up the London market for his Tory donors and Etonian cronies.