Farage resigns

[Loz]

Green Goose Wrote:

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> The Commission, which is the Executive ie makes all the decisions ( headed by Junker) is unelected.

Only if you consider the Prime Minister and the cabinet unelected. The commission is comprised of 1 person from each country, appointed by each elected national government.

Since you have no idea how the EU works, GG, here's some unbiased reading for you...

https://fullfact.org/europe/eu-facts-behind-claims-brussels-bureaucrats/

"The Commission is perhaps the most visible EU institution, but it is not necessarily the most powerful and is certainly not the government of Europe."

[JoeLeg]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> I blame foreigners for nothing.

. I'm happy to use

> Polish , Hungarian , Black workmen in my home..

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> I'm happy to eat / drink in any restaurant and be

> served by people of ANY ethinic origin.

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> I'm happy to be seen to my any doctor / nurse what

> ever their nationality

>

> I welcome skilled people who have something to

> give.. This country depends on them..

> So DO NOT play the race game with me..

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I'm not playing any 'race game', I know you're not a racist or xenophobe; I'm accusing you of a double standard, in that you want separation from Europe but would still like access to the labour market it offers. You don't want to be told what to do by foreigners, because you think the EU is to blame for or problems. But why are we so attractive to migrants? Why are they coming here if not for the jobs? Because the fact is that large parts of our economy are reliant on migrant workers. Let's not even try to go down the benefits-scrounged route, we both know that isn't true.

> So I am convinced of nothing as you suggest..

Alright, I'll concede that if you can answer me this;

What is your positing on UNSKILLED labour in this country? I would suggest that the reason so much work like fruit picking around Peterborough (and much, much else across the UK) goes to immigrants is because large parts of British youth is frankly too lazy to do it. How do we fill these low-skilled roles like hospital cleaning and street sweeping and so on?

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> You really are one of the most arrogant online

> presences I've ever encountered.

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> Is that right ?

Yes. And I'm pretty arrogant myself so I reckon I know what I'm talking about.

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> DulwichFox

[JoeLeg]

Green Goose Wrote:

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> That's bigotry if ever I read it . Just because

> you don't agree with him , you call him scum.

No, he's scum because he explicitly wants this country to shut down immigration, he wants to return this nation to a rose-tinted view of a path that never existed. He's a racist in a nice suit, and his followers often talk the same language. There's a lot of "I'm not racist, but...", a lot of wanting those funny talking people gone.

Farage had actively courted the bigoted in society, on the left and right. He's felt able to pander to people's most basic fears of those who look and sound different. And if you challenged him you got called a left wind facist, or unpatriotic, or that you were a shill for Brussels.

He lied, openly lied, during the referendum. He took money from the EU while professing to hate it. He's a hypocrite and bigot of the worst kind. We all know what his immigration message means.

He's scum.

[LouiseC]

Completely agree JoeLeg, well said...

[????]

I don't like his politics or campaigning but he says he wants all EU workers already here to be given permanent residence - which is more than May has said. He's married to a funny speaking foreigner and I'm not sure being anti-European immigration technically counts as racism. He's a shitbag in my opinion but people really are being a bit hysterical.

[rendelharris]

Seconded JoeLeg, scum of the first order.

[????]

I'm loving the newer gentler kind of politics

[Townleygreen]

Not sure what motivates Farage.

He has a big mouth and shouts a lot.

He's a complete sh1t and I hope the people who lose their jobs and fail to find them when they leave Uni/school will forgive the SOB.

I won't.

[rendelharris]

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I'm not sure being anti-European immigration technically counts as racism.

He's also against immigration from just about everywhere else and very against accepting any refugees.

"I'm loving the newer gentler kind of politics."

Seeing as over the last few days, just in the posts I've seen you've called people who disagree with you "w@nkers," "precious w@nkers," told them they're "pissing in the wind" and that you've "always enjoyed" being a hater, I'm not sure you're contributing much in that area yourself, are you?

[*Bob*]

Farage is a bell-end but I don't find myself angry with him personally.

He's a reflection of everything that was quietly lurking in Britain all along; apathy, fear, envy, disappointment. Nige didn't create them - he was the conduit channelling it all - riding the crest of fortuitous timing and poor judgment made on the other side.

It's just a shame that so many of his supporters can somehow reconcile their victory along sovereignty lines, despite knowing full well that for every one of them with noble motivation there's someone else ticking the leave box who just thinks there are 'too many pakis', or whatever.

[heartblock]

Well I think Farage is scum, but he won't care what any of us think of him as he is still an MEP - he hasn't resigned from that...and as he is paid in Euros, his salary has now increased when converted to sterling. He was one of the laziest MEPs anyway and his attendance and actual voting was appalling.

[WorkingMummy]

Agreed. Reading all the proposed new regs he voted against in the EP, was a v good advert for how necessary the EU is, to this country's best interests.

[????]

rendelharris Wrote:

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> I'm not sure being anti-European immigration

> technically counts as racism.

>

> He's also against immigration from just about

> everywhere else and very against accepting any

> refugees.

>

> "I'm loving the newer gentler kind of politics."

>

> Seeing as over the last few days, just in the

> posts I've seen you've called people who disagree

> with you "w@nkers," "precious w@nkers," told them

> they're "pissing in the wind" and that you've

> "always enjoyed" being a hater, I'm not sure

> you're contributing much in that area yourself,

> are you?

No I'm not come and give me a stern lecture . Are you my new stalker? Seems like it.

[rendelharris]

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> No I'm not come and give me a stern lecture . Are

> you my new stalker? Seems like it.

Don't flatter yourself, as you splatter this forum with rude and aggressive comments one doesn't have to stalk you to come across your aggressive arrogant ill mannered posts and find them both boring and irritating.

[????]

Oh such sanctomy - yes teacher. You come across as a self righteous pompous twat, so the feeling is mutual but I hadn't made a habit of following posting sepecifically about you which you seem to have done to me STALKER ALERT

[rendelharris]

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> Oh such sanctomy - yes teacher. You come across as

> a self righteous pompous twat, so the feeling is

> mutual but I hadn't made a habit of following

> posting sepecifically about you which you seem to

> have done to me STALKER ALERT

If I were to stalk someone then simply for my own amusement I'd choose someone a good deal more articulate, less bigoted and with better manners than yourself. "Sanctimony" and "specifically" by the way, and self-righteous has a hyphen; if you're going to have a stab at the big words do try to get them right.

[snowy]

Wow.

[Rook]

Wow there is so much hysteria at the moment- please everyone calm down

I find it especially curious that those who are suddenly preaching love and tolerance are displaying anything but!

I think the media (and Facebook) have a lot to answer for. I think if they spent half as much effort educating as they do stirring (The Guardian, Telegraph, Daily Mail) and misleading then we'd all be kind of on the same page

Back on topic, and just for BALANCE....there has been no "Brexodus" really has there...

Boris Johnson WANTED the job - he didnt resign from anything, he withdrew from the leadership contest because of the effect of all the internal politicking and the fact he knew he didnt have enough backers for nomination. Clearly the PM and his cronies wanted "anyone but Boris" and Gove was a snake and went for personal gain to take advantage of this.

Nigel farage DID resign, but HE WASNT AN MP. He wasnt a part of the official Leave campaign and was never going to be part of a new Government.

In many respects you blame the current government for dragging us through all this period of protracted uncertainty as they are clearly playing politics with the decision when they should be getting on with it

Lets avoid the abuse and try and think things through rather than simply reacting angrily without doing so. There is real risk of a self fulfilling prophecy filtering itno the wider economy with all this hysteria. maybe a few on here should avoid the afore mentioned newspapers and try to seek a calm, balanced look at the situation via another source

We all want the best for the country and each other

[????]

I don't care about the grammmar lesson. But don't you call me a bigot because there is no evidence at all and it's not true, unless bigotry is defined as not agreeing with your views. You retract the bigotry comment - typical polarised view of the sanctimonious 'liberal'. The only bigotry I can see is your one box or the other simplistic and not very clever or certainly open worldview. You are the narrow minded one.

[rendelharris]

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> I don't care about the grammmar lesson.

Spelling, not grammar (note spelling).

Your comment simply reflects your bigotry, just because it's against those you regard as 'liberal' doesn't make it any less bigoted.

"Bigotry: Intolerance towards those who hold different opinions to yourself."

Seeing as per above you have recently called people who disagree with you "precious w@nkers" etc, you seem to fit the definition perfectly.

[????]

"Scum of the first order" hello fellow bigot.

[rendelharris]

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> "Scum of the first order" hello fellow bigot.

I don't mind that at all, if regarding racist rabble rousing populist nationalist politicians like Farage as scum makes me a bigot in your eyes I'll wear the badge with pride.

[????]

Anyway I've got to go and look after my kids as 95% x 25% = a clear majority, apparently but mats ain't me strong point being a thick type

[????]

rendelharris Wrote:

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> > "Scum of the first order" hello fellow bigot.

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> I don't mind that at all, if regarding racist

> rabble rousing populist nationalist politicians

> like Farage as scum makes me a bigot in your eyes

> I'll wear the badge with pride.

No but it is, isn't it. And it's the exact 'liberal' viewpoint that has helped push us to Brexit. You and your closed and simplistic world views help explain exactly why so many people voted Brexit.

[rendelharris]

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> No but it is, isn't it. And it's the exact

> 'liberal' viewpoint that has helped push us to

> Brexit. You and your closed and simplistic world

> views help explain exactly why so many people

> voted Brexit.

Interesting point of view; so rather than blame those who voted for Brexit for the result, it's actually the fault of those who voted to stay in. With that sort of ability to twist the facts to suit your argument you should go into politics yourself, or at least get a job at the Ministry of Truth.