Lady on LL with accordion

[Louisa]

rendelharris Wrote:

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> intexasatthe moment Wrote:

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> > But is it really just a simple question of

> > offering something in exchange for cash ? I'm

> > still tending towards thinking that it's a

> > situation where someone is having to ask for

> money

> > and that they'd rather not ,that they'd rather

> > have regular employment or a pension .

>

> The buskers I've been lucky enough to get to know

> in Paris and Barcelona (some of them top-notch

> musicians who could have made a good living in

> second string symphony orchestras) were busking

> precisely because they wanted to avoid regular

> employment and a pension! Life is not one size

> fits all...

This. If this forum had a like button I'd be pressing it now.

Louisa.

[Louisa]

When I next see this lady, hopefully on a sunny day, I shall request my favourite (if somewhat cliche) song to be played on an accordion "La Vie en Rose" - the sound and familiarity of a summers afternoon in Lyon many years ago! Yes I am on the vino!

Louisa.

[Chief]

I have heard that M&S have hired her to open their new store.

[Sue]

kibris Wrote:

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> She is a begger with an accordion

A beggar (sic) is "a person, typically a homeless one, who lives by asking for money or food"

A busker is "a person who entertains in a public place for donations"

There is a big difference.

Many buskers are very talented indeed, and some go on to be professional musicians (or indeed already are).

[d.b]

A beggar is someone who seeks to obtain money out of sympathy. Doesn't matter if they are making music.

If you are giving out of sympathy then you're giving to a beggar, if you're appreciating the music, they are a busker. I haven't heard this lady so don't have an opinion on which she is...

[Beej]

intexasatthe moment Wrote:

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> I hadn't really thought of it like that ,you have

> a point .

>

> But is it really just a simple question of

> offering something in exchange for cash ? I'm

> still tending towards thinking that it's a

> situation where someone is having to ask for money

> and that they'd rather not ,that they'd rather

> have regular employment or a pension .

>

> Though I guess there's a whole continuum ....those

> people who offer packets of tissue on trains ,the

> car wash people at Sainsbury's.

I've heard her play and it is beautiful, like cross the road and stops you in your tracks beautiful, and I'm sure she's not standing there dreaming about her gold-plated pension... heaven's above, seriously, people like @intexasatthemoment give me the creeps, it's like stepford wives up in here.

[alice]

Your bitchiness towards people you don't know gives me the creeps.

That accordion player will move on.

[Sue]

d.b Wrote:

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> A beggar is someone who seeks to obtain money out

> of sympathy. Doesn't matter if they are making

> music.

>

> If you are giving out of sympathy then you're

> giving to a beggar, if you're appreciating the

> music, they are a busker.

Your motives for giving are completely irrelevant.

The definitions are as I gave above.

[theron]

The other day we witnessed someone dropping off a black bin bags full of donations outside St Christophers, only for it to be quickly whisked away minutes later by the accordion lady. Beggar, busker or not, I wouldn't want to give my money to someone who takes profitable valuables away from a charity..

[Nigello]

"That accordion player will move on." - In new threads and with a full book and CD library, it seems! It's not a nice thing to do, nabbing items given to be sold for charity.

[DulwichFox]

I always confront people stealing from St. Christophers.. one day I will get a thump..

.. but I will take that chance..

.. a quick piccy. auto transfered to The Cloud. in case they nick my ipod.

Foxy.

[froggy]

Is she still there? It was great to have her playing the accordion on Lordship Lane.

[gorilla7]

Try living above it every saturday ruined from 10am until 4pm

[gorilla7]

She doesn't get moved on at all

[gorilla7]

She doesn't bring light or love just huge nuisance. Trying living above where she plays for 7 hours every saturday on a loop

[KidKruger]

Gorilla why not just talk to the lady and let her know your concerns, perhaps then she can vary her pitches, possibly giving several local residents some respite.

[tomskip]

As a side note, why do people do that dropping charity donations off outside the shop? It's just plain lazy and amounts to fly tipping!

[rodneybewes]

KidKruger Wrote:

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> Gorilla why not just talk to the lady and let her

> know your concerns, perhaps then she can vary her

> pitches, possibly giving several local residents

> some respite.

Here's how this conversation might look

[dbboy]

She was on the pavement in front of the French shop this morning with her collection rug in the middle of the pavement, making a great trip hazard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[monica]

gorilla7 Wrote:

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> She doesn't bring light or love just huge

> nuisance. Trying living above where she plays for

> 7 hours every saturday on a loop

Hi Gorilla

I suppose living near where she plays the accordion is probably a tad too much to ask for. She does move around a bit though, and as I said I would gladly give my well earned money to her, begging or busking.

[Pugwash]

I refer to previous entry re stealing on goods

All the charity shops usually have notices asking people not to leave items outside the shop but to bring them in when shop is open. Since most charity shops are open weekends as well as weekdays there should be no excuse not to deliver during opening hours.

A relative who volunteers in a charity shop tells me that they receive soiled and torn clothing, broken toys, china etc - and they have to dispose of these items themselves.

So please when you donate to a charity shop make sure that the goods are clean and in reasonable condition and not left outside a closed shop where they can be 'stolen' or ripped to pieces by foxes.

[Beej]

Totally agree, if you're lazy enough to dump your crap outside on the pavement, I reckon it's fair game, and if she needs it, why not? What do you care? Clearly not enough to drop it off at the correct times. Also I have to say I gave her money at the weekend, I was in a foul mood until I walked past, I thought her music was lovely!

[kford]

She is a professional Roma beggar. The money you're giving her is being syphoned off back to the Fagins back home. Give your cash to the Big Issue seller outside St. Christophers instead.

[Sue]

kford Wrote:

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> She is a professional Roma beggar. The money

> you're giving her is being syphoned off back to

> the Fagins back home.

Where do you get this information from?

[Penguin68]

She is a professional Roma beggar - Actually busker, I would have thought. Beggars seek sympathy and cash without return. Buskers (street musicians) look to give with their take. She may be a 'professional' busker. Whether she is Roma (or even Romanian, without any ethnic or cultural link to the Roma) would need to be demonstrated. It is not uncommon for groups of travelling Roma to pool their resources - I would again, as would Sue, need some evidence that she is part of a managed gang, or that she didn't substantially benefit herself from the money she raises. If she is a traveller she will not be homeless, so will not be competing for funds (in that sense) against Big Issue sellers.