Football Focus

[Keef]

Maybe it needs to end in tears. For 11 years managers have failed because they haven't produced the Keegan style of play where you give away 3 goals and hope to score 4. If he does fail (and I'm not actually wishing that on them), maybe the fans will shut the f**k up for a while and accept they need a good manager to organise a good team.

Jose wasn't exactly playing the most exciting stuff at Chelsea, but it certainly worked! Wonder how the toon would feel if he was their manager.

[atila the gooner]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> Any of you Arsenal fans coming to White Hart Lane

> next week?

I've asked all the people I know that have season tickets to do me a favour a get me a ticket, as a Red Member I can very rarely get tickets via the club website, and anyway my mates are far more reliable than our website. So far no joy, although I have been to your place for the last 4 seasons running thanks to generous buddies that have sold me tickets at face value. I still waiting but I'm realistic about someone wanting to give up their ticket for this match. A guy at work who is a Spurs fan claims that you will be fielding a weakened sqaud against Sunderland at the weekend in preparation for the visit of the Arse. If that's true it makes you wonder where Ramos' priorities lie.

[Ladygooner]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> Any of you Arsenal fans coming to White Hart Lane

> next week?

Certainly not! much too long a walk from the tube! I did go last season when you were 2-0 up and we fought back to 2-2 - that was a good night!

[atila the gooner]

Yes it's that time of the week again

Birmingham 1 v Chelsea 2

Blackburn 2 v Middlesbrough 0

Fulham 0 v Arsenal 2

Newcastle 2 v Bolton 1

Portsmouth 2 v Derby 0

Reading 1 v Man Utd 3

Tottenham 2 v Sunderland 1 (depending on which side Ramos puts out)

Man City 1 v West Ham 2

Wigan 0 v Everton 2

Liverpool 1 v Aston Villa 1

[Jah Lush]

Not such a good night for me Ladygooner. I was there too. I'm be there next Tuesday and I'm certainly hoping for a better result this time round.

Atila, I can't believe Ramos will play a weakened side against Sunderland. I wouldn't have thought we have the strength in depth that the Arsenals, Man Utds and Chelseas have. But I guess he just might tweak it a little and say give Defoe start so he can give Keane a bit of a rest.

[Jah Lush]

Birmingham 0 Chelsea 3

Blackburn 2 Middlesbrough 2

Fulham 0 Arsenal 2

Newcastle 2 Bolton 1

Portsmouth 1 Derby 0

Reading 1 Man Utd 3

Tottenham 2 Sunderland 0

Man City 1 West Ham 1

Wigan 1 Everton 2

Liverpool 2 Aston Villa 1

[Ladygooner]

Birmingham 1 Chelsea 1

Blackburn 1 Middlesbrough 0

Fulham 0 Arsenal 3

Newcastle 2 Bolton 0

Portsmouth 0 Derby 0

Reading 2 Man Utd 4

Tottenham 2 Sunderland 2

Man City 2 West Ham 1

Wigan 1 Everton 2

Liverpool 2 Aston Villa 2

[atila the gooner]

I see Diarra has gone out of his way to endear himself to Pompey fans, he is reported as saying that if a big club comes in for him while playing for pompey he will be off. There's nothing like loyalty to a club, and that's nothing like loyalty to a club. Good bloody riddance to yet another overinflated ego!!!!

[Keef]

Birmingham 0 Chelsea 1

Blackburn 2 Middlesbrough 1

Fulham 1 Arsenal 3

Newcastle 2 Bolton 0

Portsmouth 3 Derby 1

Reading 1 Man Utd 2

Tottenham 3 Sunderland 1

Man City 0 West Ham 1 (Revenge!!!)

Wigan 1 Everton 2 (Come on Wigan, we need a result from you)

Liverpool 2 Aston Villa 1 (This should be a good match, think Liverpool are due a good game at home to pick themselves up)

[spadetownboy]

brum 1-1 chelski

b,burn 3-0 boro

fulham 0-2 gunners

toon 1-1 bolton

portsmouth 2-0 derby

reading 0-2 utd

spurs 2-2 sunderland

city 1-1 west ham

wigan 2-1 toffees

scousers 1-3 villa.

[mockney piers]

"Man City 0 West Ham 1 (Revenge!!!)"

Aww, are you getting a soft spot for us? I'm touched :-)

[Jah Lush]

I watched that Man City - West Ham game in the week. I was so bored I ended up doing some ironing. And, I hate ironing.

[SimonM]

Birmingham 0 Chelsea 2

Blackburn 2 Middlesbrough 1

Fulham 0 Arsenal 3

Newcastle 3 Bolton 0

Portsmouth 1 Derby 0

Reading 1 Man Utd 3

Tottenham 4 Sunderland 0

Man City 2 West Ham 1

Wigan 0 Everton 2

Liverpool 1 Aston Villa 1

[atila the gooner]

Arsenal are screening the game against Fulham at Ashburton Grove for ?15 a pop, not sure if I fancy it.

[mockney piers]

You get no argument from me Jah, it was a shocker.

[SimonM]

It is Wednesday v United tomorrow lunchtime live on Sky. Anything less than a thumping away win and the cats had better make themselves scarce around here...(6)

[Keef]

Piers I do have a bit of a soft spot for the Hammers. I also want them to win as it would help us out no end! ;-) And Jah, you're right, Mrs Keef said she didn't mind the football on as she had stuff to do. By half time I was begging her to come and watch a DVD with me!

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

Sorry MP, has to be said: come on Man C!x

[atila the gooner]

just watched the Toon game on Setanta.......................absolute toilet

[atila the gooner]

Setantas offerings during the past week have been rubbish, I hope the Pool but up a better showing tonight.

[citizenED]

Just because you're a crap footballer, or you make a simple mistake during a game, does it give someone who paid to watch you play the right to jeer at you or verbally abuse you?

[atila the gooner]

citizenED Wrote:

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> Just because you're a crap footballer, or you make

> a simple mistake during a game, does it give

> someone who paid to watch you play the right to

> jeer at you or verbally abuse you?

Given the amount poor mugs like me and hundreds of thousands of others pay week in week out, I think it gives us the right to voice our displeasure. I certainly wouldn't stoop to racial abuse, or personal abuse, but I have every right to comment on the performance, just as a theatre goer would. Footballers are paid huge amounts of money and supporters pay through the nose. So, yes I think I'm entitled to an opinion, and to jeer. After all, if I and all those who go through the turnstiles and subscribe to Sky decide enough is enough, these people would be screwed. Why should sportsman be different to everyone else?

[david_carnell]

atila the gooner Wrote:

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> Given the amount poor mugs like me and hundreds of

> thousands of others pay week in week out, I think

> it gives us the right to voice our displeasure. I

> certainly wouldn't stoop to racial abuse, or

> personal abuse, but I have every right to comment

> on the performance, just as a theatre goer would.

> Footballers are paid huge amounts of money and

> supporters pay through the nose. So, yes I think

> I'm entitled to an opinion, and to jeer. After

> all, if I and all those who go through the

> turnstiles and subscribe to Sky decide enough is

> enough, these people would be screwed. Why should

> sportsman be different to everyone else?

I'd pretty much agree with atilla here with the addition of homophobic abuse. I intently dislike the fact that in football it is still tolerated in a way that racism is not. Ask Graeme Le Saux. My only worry is that football should be family-friendly - taking children (under 15s) to games should be encouraged but I'd be wary given the kind of abuse referees and players receive on a regular basis. And when it stretches into the personal (a la Mrs Beckham and her sexual preferences) I draw the line.

Family only stands don't always solve the problem, sound travels a long way. "Who's the wanker in the black" can often be heard on MOTD let alone in the neighbouring stand. I don't wish to sanitise football - it is at heart an earthy, manly, sometimes gutteral sport; but just sometimes I hang my head in shame at the language and opinions you hear on a terrace these days.

[mockney piers]

"just as a theatre goer would."

Do you really shout "you're rubbish, you couldn't act your way out of a paper bag" in the middle of a performance?

I've been known to shout "He's behind you..." every once in a while, but otherwise I'm not sure that the theatre equates with a game of footie.

[atila the gooner]

Come on mockney, you know what I mean. As a paying punter you have a right to voice your displeasue. Of course a theatre goer wouldn't stand up and chant ( I don't know though). If you pay for something, no matter what it is, you have right to expect a certain standard of service, entertainment, whatever. If I go to a restaurant and get served food which isn't up to scratch, I voice my displeasure. I have booed a performance at the theatre before now, and have applauded loudly when I thought the performance was excellent . I work pretty hard for my dosh, unfortuantely, so I like getting my moneys worth.

It always makes me smile when I hear so called pundits expressing their displeasure at crowds booing or jeering players/teams. What makes them so special. We all work for the filthy lucre.