Incident in Peckham Rye Park

[spirit]

Does anyone know about the suicide/murder in the park? I walked there early this morning with my partner and the gates were all closed excpet for the one by the lake and the area around the shelter in the Japanese Garden area was cordined off with Police tape. Passersby were saying a body had been found in the shelter by a member of the public early this morning and that it was either a murder or a suicide. I'd be reassured to know if it was the latter, sad as it may be. I walk there every day, quite early too.

Thanks

[boosboss]

It was indeed a suicide. I got a call from the park manager this morning to inform me. A man hanged himself from the rafters of the Japanese shelter. The police have identified him, but have not released any details as yet. No-one else is thought to be involved.

[Shaggy]

I bet he heard that the White Stuff was defo going to open up on Lordship Lane, and decided that it was the only way out.

[tiddles]

oh how sad. horrible to imagine that when the sun was shinging some person was feeling so awful. platitudes I know but...

[Ko]

May he rest in peace

[citizenED]

How awful - condolances to the guys's family.

[Pickle]

That's horrible, my thoughts to his family and friends.

I walk in the park every day (what a fantastic park it is too, a real hidden gem) and love the Japanese Garden. Very sad that someone felt the need to take his own life in such a beautiful setting.

[Nero]

This is very sad news indeed. I hope his family and friends are able to do their best to deal with this tragedy. If there is one practical thing anyone can do after hearing this news it's to really understand that depression is a killer and to try to reach out to people who go through it, whatever its guise. Nero

[MadWorld74]

I was in the park at 7pm last night training. I'm stunned, I can't belive it!!!!

[MadWorld74]

What else do people know? Does anyone know the time it happened? It's so awful. The park will always be a sad place now. I know how depression can drive you to despair. It's just so awful that he wasn't/couldn't/didn't want to be helped by anyone.

[Nero]

I don't think the park will be a sad place. It'll be a place where at least one very sad thing happened. It's generally a good place to be, I think. Nero

[MadWorld74]

When I run past the Japanese Shelter it will be very tragic to me. I've checked the South London Press site, but it's not been reported.

It is a beautiful park, you're right, Nero.

[spadetownboy]

wht is it being assumed this person suffered from depression,just because someone decides to take their life it dosent mean they suffer from depression or any type of mental illness for that matter. i do appreciate that sometimes it does go hand in hand but there are numerous other reasons why people commit suicide and not just because they are depressed.

[MadWorld74]

spadetownboy it doesn't really matter whether he was depressed or not. Fact is a life was lost, and in such a tragic way.

[spadetownboy]

im not denying a life was lost just pointing out that every time someone tops themselves its not always because they are depressed.

[Asset]

it's not really the sort of thing that cheery, happy, carefree people do though.....

[Mark]

I believe there's more emotions than just depressed and happy Asset, for example there's excitement and loneliness as well.

[spadetownboy]

you,d be surprised

[*Bob*]

BOREDOM?*

*see White Stuff thread

[Asset]

Of course I know that Mark, but my comment was referring to Spadetownboy's assertion that you don't have to be depressed to commit suicide.

I would think that being very lonely leads to depression 'a disorder characterised by extreme gloom, feelings of inadequacy and inability to concentrate' ergo not cheery, happy and carefree. And does excitement make one feel like ending it all? Obviously there are many states of mind and many emotions but how many of these can be described as above and lead one to end one's life. Heartbreak maybe, but again does that not lead on, in its worst case, to what is termed depression?

Depression is a state of mind - not an emotion.

[MadWorld74]

cheers Bob, bet you work for the Samaritans don't you. Not.

[smith]

There are more reasons than depression that people choose this route - guilt and cowardice being just two. Not at all saying this is what's happened in this sad incident, but identifying with spadetownboy's comments.

[Mark]

Apologies, I was being partly facetious and just giving a couple of examples of emotions/states of mind and not necessarily ones that contribute to suicide.

There's information here: http://www.channel4.com/health for anyone that's interested in finding out more

[Keef]

smith Wrote:

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> There are more reasons than depression that people

> choose this route - guilt and cowardice being just

> two. Not at all saying this is what's happened in

> this sad incident, but identifying with

> spadetownboy's comments.

I agree that depression isn't always the cause of suicide, but the cowardice thing always annoys me! As far as I'm concerned, it would take a lot of guts to top yourself, and it's not "the coward's way out"!

[SeanMacGabhann]

The predominant feeling I have experienced amongst friends and family of those that commit suicide isn't grief or loss - it has been anger both times. And in one case over 10 years later they are still angry at the guy