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Yes, the double decker number 42s have been trundling along Red Post Hill over the past weeks/months.


Maybe that's what caused a major waterpipe burst early this morning on Red Post which affected the whole area, living wise and traffic wise?


Who knows but Red Post Hill and surrounding roads are left with the clear up all because of another 'consultation/extension'.

"Believe the Boris bus is around 12 so lighter than your average single decker."

Red AND green - how clever.

Still think SE22 needs a couple of express services/services served by smaller vehicles at certain times of the day but have been told by GLA trsnsport highest-up that because the current services are not jam packed - people can still board - they are not needed.

Lowlander Wrote:

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> Hardly any difference in weight between a

> single/double decker. Both around 12-14 tonnes.

>

> Believe the Boris bus is around 12 so lighter than

> your average single decker.

>

> I'll get my anorak.


The reference guide in my anorak pocket advises as follows:-


1. Single deck bus (like P13) = 6.5T nett and 9.5T gross

2. Boris bus = 12.6T nett and 16T gross

Villager Wrote:

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> Lowlander Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Hardly any difference in weight between a

> > single/double decker. Both around 12-14

> tonnes.

> >

> > Believe the Boris bus is around 12 so lighter

> than

> > your average single decker.

> >

> > I'll get my anorak.

>

> The reference guide in my anorak pocket advises as

> follows:-

>

> 1. Single deck bus (like P13) = 6.5T nett and 9.5T

> gross

> 2. Boris bus = 12.6T nett and 16T gross


The P13 is operated by E200 Darts


http://www.londonbusroutes.net/details.htm


Which are, according to the manufacturer, 13.2t ? 14.4t GVW


http://www.alexander-dennis.com/products/enviro200-euro6/


I really must get out more

Sadly, this is going ahead despite the Red Post Hill residents not being consulted in writing and submitting a petition from the residents stating that we do not want double deckers. They have given a spurious reason for the new routing because of tree preservation orders on Sunray avenue, to which we are also subject. This has very much been pushed through against our wishes and actions. Even Helen Hayes has petitioned TFL to change the route and they sadly haven't listened to her either...

Amaryllis Wrote:

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Even Helen Hayes has petitioned TFL

> to change the route and they sadly haven't

> listened to her either...


Her credibilty is shot as she is always whinging about TFL and train operators. They just ignore her now.

Villager Wrote:

> The reference guide in my anorak pocket advises as follows:-

>

> 1. Single deck bus (like P13) = 6.5T nett and 9.5T

> gross

> 2. Boris bus = 12.6T nett and 16T gross


Does it tell you the length and width of the single decker (ie P4) vs double decker to be used on the 42 route? Due to the traffic island "chicanes" on Red Post Hill I think manoeuvrability is more important than weight

slarti b Wrote:

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> Villager Wrote:

> > The reference guide in my anorak pocket advises

> as follows:-

> >

> > 1. Single deck bus (like P13) = 6.5T nett and

> 9.5T

> > gross

> > 2. Boris bus = 12.6T nett and 16T gross

>

> Does it tell you the length and width of the

> single decker (ie P4) vs double decker to be used

> on the 42 route? Due to the traffic island

> "chicanes" on Red Post Hill I think

> manoeuvrability is more important than weight


Buses on the 42 route are 9.3m long


TfL run some double deckers that are 9.9m (e.g. route 176)


60cm difference.


10cm width difference.


Info here


http://www.londonbusroutes.net/details.htm

slarti b Wrote:

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> Lowlander,

> Many thanks for the link, I will check this out in

> more detail at home. Lots of nice info, I had no

> idea the "P" of P4 stood for Peckham!


Thanks, I came across it by accident looking for bus times many years ago. Is much better than TfL's site, including as you say all the information I was too scared to ask for.

Roundabout Wrote:

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> From 1st October route 42 is extended from Sunray

> Avenue to East Dulwich Sainsbury's


Extended, but no longer serving Sunray Avenue, running along both sides of Red Post Hill instead.

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