Vik Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 I noticed a Double Decker driving in and out of Sainsburys the other day, now a new bus stand has appeared on Dog Kennel Hill, looks like the 42 is ready for action!https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/buses/bus-route-42 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/123883-42-bus-route-extention/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruskin Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 I wonder if this is also why they've planted new cameras on DKH? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/123883-42-bus-route-extention/#findComment-1049636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bic Basher Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 The bus stand was installed at DKH outside the park a few months ago.What hasn't happened yet is where the 42 will park within Sainsbury's? There's a spare space at the bus stop for the bus, although it may share the current bus stop with the P13. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/123883-42-bus-route-extention/#findComment-1049983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorlad Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Just in time for Tower Bridge to be out of action for three months! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/123883-42-bus-route-extention/#findComment-1050011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandNewGuy Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 That's what I thought. They're going to start the service from Druid St SE1 from Oct 1st to Dec 31st and not serve north of the river.http://content.tfl.gov.uk/tower-bridge-bus-diversion-map.pdf Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/123883-42-bus-route-extention/#findComment-1050027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cora Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Wow - thanks for the tip - we always get the 42 to Liverpool street.....could've scuppered our Christmas journey! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/123883-42-bus-route-extention/#findComment-1050227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passiflora Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Yes, the double decker number 42s have been trundling along Red Post Hill over the past weeks/months. Maybe that's what caused a major waterpipe burst early this morning on Red Post which affected the whole area, living wise and traffic wise?Who knows but Red Post Hill and surrounding roads are left with the clear up all because of another 'consultation/extension'. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/123883-42-bus-route-extention/#findComment-1050407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandNewGuy Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Buit as you say, there is no evidence for double decker buses cuasing a water main burst, so the rest of what you say is speculation. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/123883-42-bus-route-extention/#findComment-1050516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowlander Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Hardly any difference in weight between a single/double decker. Both around 12-14 tonnes.Believe the Boris bus is around 12 so lighter than your average single decker.I'll get my anorak. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/123883-42-bus-route-extention/#findComment-1050560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nxjen Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 ... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/123883-42-bus-route-extention/#findComment-1050578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigello Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 "Believe the Boris bus is around 12 so lighter than your average single decker." Red AND green - how clever.Still think SE22 needs a couple of express services/services served by smaller vehicles at certain times of the day but have been told by GLA trsnsport highest-up that because the current services are not jam packed - people can still board - they are not needed. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/123883-42-bus-route-extention/#findComment-1050762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villager Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Lowlander Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Hardly any difference in weight between a> single/double decker. Both around 12-14 tonnes.> > Believe the Boris bus is around 12 so lighter than> your average single decker.> > I'll get my anorak.The reference guide in my anorak pocket advises as follows:-1. Single deck bus (like P13) = 6.5T nett and 9.5T gross2. Boris bus = 12.6T nett and 16T gross Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/123883-42-bus-route-extention/#findComment-1051029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowlander Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Villager Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Lowlander Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > Hardly any difference in weight between a> > single/double decker. Both around 12-14> tonnes.> > > > Believe the Boris bus is around 12 so lighter> than> > your average single decker.> > > > I'll get my anorak.> > The reference guide in my anorak pocket advises as> follows:-> > 1. Single deck bus (like P13) = 6.5T nett and 9.5T> gross> 2. Boris bus = 12.6T nett and 16T grossThe P13 is operated by E200 Dartshttp://www.londonbusroutes.net/details.htmWhich are, according to the manufacturer, 13.2t ? 14.4t GVWhttp://www.alexander-dennis.com/products/enviro200-euro6/I really must get out more Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/123883-42-bus-route-extention/#findComment-1051056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bic Basher Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Those 42 bus drivers will have 'fun' trying to get along Red Post Hill. It's bad enough when the P4 driver today had to navigate traffic islands and parked cars/vans. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/123883-42-bus-route-extention/#findComment-1051623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomdhu Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Can't wait for it to start running. Anyone have inside info on a date? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/123883-42-bus-route-extention/#findComment-1051684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passiflora Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 On the 42 yesterday the driver told me next Saturday.He wasn't looking forward to it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/123883-42-bus-route-extention/#findComment-1051695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaryllis Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Sadly, this is going ahead despite the Red Post Hill residents not being consulted in writing and submitting a petition from the residents stating that we do not want double deckers. They have given a spurious reason for the new routing because of tree preservation orders on Sunray avenue, to which we are also subject. This has very much been pushed through against our wishes and actions. Even Helen Hayes has petitioned TFL to change the route and they sadly haven't listened to her either... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/123883-42-bus-route-extention/#findComment-1051859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Goose Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Amaryllis Wrote:------------------------------------------------------- Even Helen Hayes has petitioned TFL> to change the route and they sadly haven't> listened to her either...Her credibilty is shot as she is always whinging about TFL and train operators. They just ignore her now. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/123883-42-bus-route-extention/#findComment-1051948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slarti b Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Villager Wrote:> The reference guide in my anorak pocket advises as follows:-> > 1. Single deck bus (like P13) = 6.5T nett and 9.5T> gross> 2. Boris bus = 12.6T nett and 16T grossDoes it tell you the length and width of the single decker (ie P4) vs double decker to be used on the 42 route? Due to the traffic island "chicanes" on Red Post Hill I think manoeuvrability is more important than weight Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/123883-42-bus-route-extention/#findComment-1052057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaryllis Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 I believe that this has been considered as part of the road changes that were made prior to the consultation.Which is why the consultation by TFL has been such a sham. It's really not the right road for all these big buses. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/123883-42-bus-route-extention/#findComment-1052071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowlander Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 slarti b Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Villager Wrote:> > The reference guide in my anorak pocket advises> as follows:-> > > > 1. Single deck bus (like P13) = 6.5T nett and> 9.5T> > gross> > 2. Boris bus = 12.6T nett and 16T gross> > Does it tell you the length and width of the> single decker (ie P4) vs double decker to be used> on the 42 route? Due to the traffic island> "chicanes" on Red Post Hill I think> manoeuvrability is more important than weightBuses on the 42 route are 9.3m longTfL run some double deckers that are 9.9m (e.g. route 176)60cm difference.10cm width difference.Info herehttp://www.londonbusroutes.net/details.htm Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/123883-42-bus-route-extention/#findComment-1052091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slarti b Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Lowlander, Many thanks for the link, I will check this out in more detail at home. Lots of nice info, I had no idea the "P" of P4 stood for Peckham! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/123883-42-bus-route-extention/#findComment-1052191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowlander Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 slarti b Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Lowlander, > Many thanks for the link, I will check this out in> more detail at home. Lots of nice info, I had no> idea the "P" of P4 stood for Peckham!Thanks, I came across it by accident looking for bus times many years ago. Is much better than TfL's site, including as you say all the information I was too scared to ask for. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/123883-42-bus-route-extention/#findComment-1052206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundabout Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 From 1st October route 42 is extended from Sunray Avenue to East Dulwich Sainsbury's Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/123883-42-bus-route-extention/#findComment-1052363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bic Basher Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Roundabout Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> From 1st October route 42 is extended from Sunray> Avenue to East Dulwich Sainsbury'sExtended, but no longer serving Sunray Avenue, running along both sides of Red Post Hill instead. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/123883-42-bus-route-extention/#findComment-1052521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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