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It's 2016 and children are starving to death in Yemen.

Please do what you can.?

Write to your MP ...

[email protected]?

[email protected]


Write to Boris Johnson the Foreign Secretary ...



https://act.oxfam.org/great-britain/stop-fuelling-war-in-yemen-5e7b648a-f4d8-42ea-9fc8-f2910c429bd8‎


Donate to Unicef ‎...


http://unicef.org.uk/landing-pages/Yemen-crisis-appeal/


Donate to Oxfam ...



http://www.oxfam.org.uk/what-we-do/emergency-response/yemen-crisis



Read these reports ...


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/04/yemen-famine-feared-as-starving-children-fight-for-lives-in-hospital


http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57ecc6a7e4b024a52d2cee68?section=us_world



Spread the word‎ ...




As a mother of 7 year old boys I'm horrified that we can allow children to starve to death in 2016. This man-made crisis is appallingly under-reported.


Please do what you can and let me know what more I can do.

Blah Blah Wrote:

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> We could also stop selling arms to Saudi Arabia.


UKGov's attitude in this always reminds me of the great Tom Lehrer song about Werner von Braun:


Don't say that he's hypocritical

Say rather that he's apolitical:

"Once the missiles are up, who cares where they come down?

That's not my department," says Werner von Braun.

Yemen is a mess - it's never really been politically stable and the current civil war is just the latest in the series. Write to Helen Hayes and Boris Johnson if you want, but you're wasting your time - it's 50 years too late for the UK to do anything meaningful.


Giving to famine relief and medical aid charities always a good idea though - can I give a shout out to MSF


http://www.msf.org.uk/country-region/yemen

rendelharris Wrote:

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> Odd as it may seem, as the father of no children

> I'm also horrified when children starve to death.


Sorry to distract from the topic in hand but do you mean you are a father of adults? I'm not sure you need particular qualifications to be horrified when children starve to death.

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> rendelharris Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Odd as it may seem, as the father of no

> children

> > I'm also horrified when children starve to

> death.

>

> Sorry to distract from the topic in hand but do

> you mean you are a father of adults? I'm not sure

> you need particular qualifications to be horrified

> when children starve to death.


No, I've never had children, sadly, I was just having a gentle dig at the comment one sees so often, "as a parent I..." as if the ability to procreate in some way gives one a special empathy, especially where issues involving children arise. It's the same thing we had a while back with the lovely Leadsom implying May would make a worse PM as she's childless. I'm sure the OP's heart is in the right place but it does grate somewhat.

DuncanW Wrote:

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> Maybe toughen up a bit. It wasn't aimed at you or

> disparaging your capability to feel empathy with

> the situation.


I'm tough as old boots thank you, doesn't mean I can't find some things annoying. If when people say "as a parent I feel..." they're not implying some superiority of empathy conferred by parenthood then why bother saying it at all? Why not just as a human being I feel...

As a human being, rendelharris,

I am disappointed at the distraction that you have introduced to this thread.

I ignored your message as I thought you were trolling.


It's not about me. It's not about you. It's about children dying - of starvation - in 2016. Young human beings starving to death - avoidable suffering and avoidable death, as a consequence of adult human actions.


Thank you DaveR for the link to

http://www.msf.org.uk/country-region/yemen


Please share more actions that we can take to do what we can to end this crisis.

Chocky Wrote:

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> As a human being, rendelharris,

> I am disappointed at the distraction that you have

> introduced to this thread.

> I ignored your message as I thought you were

> trolling.

>

> It's not about me. It's not about you. It's about

> children dying - of starvation - in 2016. Young

> human beings starving to death - avoidable

> suffering and avoidable death, as a consequence of

> adult human actions.

>

> Thank you DaveR for the link to

> http://www.msf.org.uk/country-region/yemen

>

> Please share more actions that we can take to do

> what we can to end this crisis.


Firstly, if you think handwringing on a local forum is going to change a single thing, you're deluded - why not go and volunteer for, for example, an organisation that helps refugees? I do. Secondly, if it's not about you, why introduce the "as a parent" note?

rendelharris Wrote:

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> Chocky Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > As a human being, rendelharris,

> > I am disappointed at the distraction that you

> have

> > introduced to this thread.

> > I ignored your message as I thought you were

> > trolling.

> >

> > It's not about me. It's not about you. It's

> about

> > children dying - of starvation - in 2016. Young

> > human beings starving to death - avoidable

> > suffering and avoidable death, as a consequence

> of

> > adult human actions.

> >

> > Thank you DaveR for the link to

> > http://www.msf.org.uk/country-region/yemen

> >

> > Please share more actions that we can take to

> do

> > what we can to end this crisis.

>

> Firstly, if you think handwringing on a local

> forum is going to change a single thing, you're

> deluded - why not go and volunteer for, for

> example, an organisation that helps refugees? I

> do. Secondly, if it's not about you, why

> introduce the "as a parent" note?


Are you still banging on about this detail RH?


You're being a tit, leave it alone.

Seabag Wrote:

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> rendelharris Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Chocky Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > As a human being, rendelharris,

> > > I am disappointed at the distraction that you

> > have

> > > introduced to this thread.

> > > I ignored your message as I thought you were

> > > trolling.

> > >

> > > It's not about me. It's not about you. It's

> > about

> > > children dying - of starvation - in 2016.

> Young

> > > human beings starving to death - avoidable

> > > suffering and avoidable death, as a

> consequence

> > of

> > > adult human actions.

> > >

> > > Thank you DaveR for the link to

> > > http://www.msf.org.uk/country-region/yemen

> > >

> > > Please share more actions that we can take to

> > do

> > > what we can to end this crisis.

> >

> > Firstly, if you think handwringing on a local

> > forum is going to change a single thing, you're

> > deluded - why not go and volunteer for, for

> > example, an organisation that helps refugees?

> I

> > do. Secondly, if it's not about you, why

> > introduce the "as a parent" note?

>

> Are you still banging on about this detail RH?

>

> You're being a tit, leave it alone.


I was responding to a comment made to me. This is a forum, by the way, where people are, I believe, in the phrase at the head of the Lounge, free "to chat about anything." Hopefully without people resorting to insults and obscenity, but if that's the way you want to roll, go ahead.

Seabag Wrote:

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> My point made

>

> Now go make yourself a nice cup of tea

>

> Big love

> X


If your point was that you have the capability gratuitously to insult others, then yes it's made beautifully. Thanks, I think I will have a cuppa now.

rendelharris Wrote:

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> If when people

> say "as a parent I feel..." they're not implying

> some superiority of empathy conferred by

> parenthood then why bother saying it at all? Why

> not just as a human being I feel...


No, not "superior" empathy, just a different type of empathy, because our emotions as human beings are all coloured by our life experiences. But, that doesn't necessarily make one experience superior to the others, no? It just makes them different. And surely it's ok to talk about how our backgrounds and experiences colour our worldview?


Anyhoo... MSF seem to do great work, and I'm glad that this thread raises awareness for Yemen. xx

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