Twin rooms - William Hague

['bout now]

DC is right in that the real issue is the employment of this seemingly unqualified special advisor. If he is employed on the back of his bedside manner than it is right that Hague should resign.

However the sharing of rooms took place during the General Election campaign so on that note it does look more a matter of financial prudence.

Doesn't it?

[Keef]

D_C is indeed right regarding the main issue.

Surely if they were "up to something" they would have booked two rooms (and used one.....).

I would hope its a storm in a tea cup.

I feel sure Mick has to be right on this, in this day and age, you'd have to say they deserved everything they got if they were caught out, as they should be a lot more media aware!

[Magpie]

The night they shared a room was on the election campaign - prior to him being foreign secretary. So could just have been a lack of available rooms in a small B&B while on campaign - details don't seem to be available. I also think that its pretty standard practice for men to share rooms when away on stag dos, golfing weekends, rugby tours etc I have also shared rooms on work awaydays, although i certainly wouldn't put up with sharing if I was actually working away from home.

My understanding was that his special advisor was a bit of high flyer in terms of academic achievement, and in political greasy pole climbing. Still massively unexperienced clearly.

[peckhamboy]

Magpie Wrote:

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> My understanding was that his special advisor was

> a bit of high flyer in terms of academic

> achievement, and in political greasy pole

> climbing. Still massively unexperienced clearly.

Possibly an unfortunate choice of words, Magpie (or alternatively very well chosen!)

[Jah Lush]

No doubt come Sunday Hague and his wife Ffion will be pictured coming out of their local church on Sunday in a perfect little set up photo opportunity for the press and media insisting how much they love each other and how their faith is helping them stay strong in their relationship despite her "miscarriages" and the persistent rumours of his gay philandering with his 25-year-old "special adviser."

[SeanMacGabhann]

I hate how in this country a story isn?t a story unless a ?name? is involved ? and even then it?s still not a story but it keeps everyone occupied for days

Meanwhile there is a pretty serious investigation going on by the NYT and to a lesser extent the Guardian on the back of the previous NoTW telephone bugging issue ? the allegation now being that the police were in cahoots abou the whole thing. Which is pretty major but no personalities so hey ho? back to the carnival show

[Jah Lush]

Your "story" is without merit Sean as there were plenty of personalities bugged and the Royal Family too which probably makes it an even bigger scoop.

[Magpie]

Apologies - apparently the special advisor is not a high flyer - only a 2.2 degree. I would imagine the leaking of this story is as a result of his "virtual" greasy pole climbing causing irritation amongst other staffers.

You have to say that for Hague to come out with such an unequivical denial, that either the story is completely untrue or he has set himself up for a massive fall - I would tend to believe the former as, whatever people think of his politics, he is certainly a very intelligent man.

[red devil]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> No doubt come Sunday Hague and his wife Ffion will

> be pictured coming out of their local church on

> Sunday in a perfect little set up photo

> opportunity for the press and media insisting how

> much they love each other and how their faith is

> helping them stay strong in their relationship

> despite her "miscarriages" and the persistent

> rumours of his gay philandering with his

> 25-year-old "special adviser."

Keep up Jah...

[Jah Lush]

Ha! That's the ticket.

[woofmarkthedog]

Very funny clip

He's done for though I fear, I like William Hague ( not in a man love way though ) he had some gravitas but, how friggin stupid can you get

As per usual the press will rip him to shreds like they always do. We'll all read the gory details of course, the sad part is the loss of an otherwise decent politician from a pretty average bunch

Still he can always "spend more time with the family" & eventually get outed in a couple of years time " birdwatching" in some layby off the A3

*sigh*

W**F

[*Bob*]

William Hague - from wally to elder statesman after five minutes with a set of Wahl clippers.

wally

elder statesman

[woofmarkthedog]

>> If the cap fits <<

The real William Hague scandal from POPBITCH ( yeah , every thursday f.o.c ,love that )

Surely the most startling thing about the

Hague story is not the air of homophobia

exhibited in the media and by Tory grandees.

Nor Hague's extra-ordinary statement. Nor even

how did Hague get someone so good-looking to

share a room with him. But that the man who,

more than anyone in history, lost their

credibility and party leadership by wearing

a baseball cap... still chooses to wear one!

Baseball hats then and now:

http://bit.ly/cSUt4w

[SteveT]

The more I get to know our politicians the more disillusioned I become.

I thought he was one of the better one's until he got into business with Seb Coe to dive into the olympic trough of greed and avarice.

When he got married to Ffion he was laughing up his sleeve as he duped the nation into believing he was a 'family man'.

Do they scrape all these politicians out of the dormitory of 'lying thieving benders', or is it just an unfortunate coincidence, again?

[DJKillaQueen]

Here's William Hague's record on gay issues and legislation...

He was opposed to Labours repeal in the late 90's of Thatchers heinous section 28.

He voted against the adoption of children by gay couples too.

And yet paradoxically he supported the move to lower the age of consent for homosexuals from 21 to 16 in 1994 (it was eventually lowered to 18).

He also supported the bill for civil partnerships and gay marriage.

If you look at his voting record on gay related issues in legislation he only ever turned up to vote in favour of one bill and that was the third reading of the civil partnership bill which then became law. For all other appearances, he voted against. For the rest he was absent. You can view his track record here.

He clearly takes the view that homosexuality is nurture not nature (in contradiction to most medical opinion) and it's worth noting that where he has spoken out in support of some bills, it has been in opposition, at a time when the conservatives were struggling to regain any kind of core vote (and realising that homophobia wasn't a vote winner amongst young voters anymore).

Personally I couldn't give a toss what he does. I have no respect for anyone with that kind of voting record on gay rights. Should he resign because someone suggested he might be gay? No he should grow a pair and ask himself why is British parliament (and his party) so archaic that such gossip should require resignation? Maybe the answer lies in his strong opposition to removing hereditary peers from the House of Lords.....he'd rather cling on to irrelvant and undemocratic tradition than see that this is the 21st century and no-one really gives a hoot who he shares a room with.

[Belle]

If it was party political business he'd have had to pay for the room himself I think? I know of lots of cases where MPs and staff shared rooms at conference for that reason. Also think it's hardly the first time someone of that age and apparent lack of experience has been made a special advisor, there were lots who fell into that category under the last administration too.

Agree phone tapping story much more important...

[ratty]

Maybe Willy and Ffion can't have a baby because he keeps doing her up the wrong 'un?

[DJKillaQueen]

Yup, agreed - phone tapping is a far more important issue.