Iceland eyesore

[ruffers]

That's right. Everyone knows that one.

[DulwichFox]

So the rubbish in the Co-op is /was my respnsibility and should anyone slip on it,

it is MY fault for not picking it up.

Right Got it now.. Think I will drink a bottle of gin to catch up..

DF

[Sue]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> So the rubbish in the Co-op is /was my

> respnsibility and should anyone slip on it,

> it is MY fault for not picking it up.

>

> Right Got it now.. Think I will drink a bottle of

> gin to catch up..

>

It was you who raised the subject in the first place, Fox, and told us how dangerous the rubbish was.

And you still haven't told us what this law is.

Enjoy your gin :))

[traveler2]

Coop is a terrible market not just because of its sloppy management = unsafe shopping isles. I would love to see it closed down. Bring on M & S !

[KalamityKel]

It's just a food shop... why think it's anything more? *sighs

[edhistory]

It will be interesting to see how the newly published photographs of the interior are reflected in the Valuation Officers assessment.

[first mate]

I may be misreading or misunderstanding estate agent info but they seem to be marketing a flat on the first floor at over ?670. This will have access to a communal rooftop garden, inducating other flats to be sold on this level.

So have all those offices on the first and second floors, the ones that allowed the last application to go through, now been converted to 'affordable' flats? Or is the information incorrect and what they are refrring to is the Penthouse flats on 4 th floor?

[James Barber]

The littered isles are a breach of H&S enforceable by Southwark Council who are now acting on the photos helpfully provided by DF to me.

I'm amazed people are so obtuse about this. If someone trips or falls they would have obvious pain and suffering. Our local NHS would have to try fixing them for entirely avoidable falls and trips. DF has done a public service by highlighting this and initially trying to get the store management to act more professionally.

[first mate]

James,

You may know more about current state of play of flats at M&S site. Have all those offices now become flats...each at arounf ?670?

You may also be interested to know that lorries delivering fridges etc.. for M&S have been having great difficulty getting in and out of the site, frequently having to park up adjacent to houses and blocking the footpath. The drivers said the M&S regular delivery vehicles will be even larger? Any comment?

[Abe_froeman]

First mate, is this the apprtment you saw advertised?

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/new-homes-for-sale/property-55148335.html

It does look very smart but doesn't bear much resemblance to the lay out of the offices in the more recent planning application drawings.

The council and the developer seem to be proceeding on the basis of the 2014 planning permission though for the change of use form offices to aprtments on the first and saecond floors. The council recently approved the ecohomes assesment for those apartments so they clearly aren't interested in whether or not this develpoment met the affordable homes rules.

http://planbuild.southwark.gov.uk/documents/?casereference=16/AP/1806&system=DC

[Earl Aelfheah]

Wow, just noticed how long this thread has been running... nearly 6 years!

[titch juicy]

edhistory Wrote:

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> It will be interesting to see how the newly

> published photographs of the interior are

> reflected in the Valuation Officers assessment.

Hmmmm, i'm not sure it will.

[first mate]

Abe,

That's the one. So 8 flats at ?670 with the penthouses on top at, presumably, much more. The developers have pretty much got everything they want and more, will wait to see combined impact of the whole.

[Earl Aelfheah]

first mate Wrote:

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> Abe,

>

> That's the one. So 8 flats at ?670 with the

> penthouses on top at, presumably, much more. The

> developers have pretty much got everything they

> want and more, will wait to see combined impact of

> the whole.

You mean a commercial property company has run rings around Southwark planning authorities? I don't believe it!?!?

[edhistory]

titch juicy Wrote:

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> edhistory Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > It will be interesting to see how the newly

> > published photographs of the interior are

> > reflected in the Valuation Officers assessment.

>

> Hmmmm, i'm not sure it will.

Here is part of the Business Rate assessment for the Iceland Occupation.

Valuation scheme reference: 9173

Retail Zone A Area m2/unit 95.90 ? m2/unit ?279

No business rates are payable for the for the period of refurbishment. They become payable again no later than 31 August 2016.

By comparison small food retailers on Lordship Lane are assessed at Retail Zone A Area ? m2/unit ?430

[KalamityKel]

first mate Wrote:

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> James,

>

> You may know more about current state of play of

> flats at M&S site. Have all those offices now

> become flats...each at arounf ?670?

>

> You may also be interested to know that lorries

> delivering fridges etc.. for M&S have been having

> great difficulty getting in and out of the site,

> frequently having to park up adjacent to houses

> and blocking the footpath. The drivers said the

> M&S regular delivery vehicles will be even larger?

> Any comment?

The lorries are meant to be smaller and more frequent.

Taking up the road and pedestrian walkway for the arrival of the fridges and other equipment was planned. Those directly effected were notified by the project lead from Wates.

[Abe_froeman]

Yes Southwark has had its pants pulled down! The outcome is likely to be that house prices in the area are nudged up again by the sale of 10 luxury flats with more wealthy people moving in while stocks of affordable housing remain critically low.

It's good for those with a vested interest (as with the ?40,000 being spent on Melbourne Grove to improve the experience for those with buggies), not so good for, say, poorly paid nurses hoping to live somewhere near King's college hospital.

[KalamityKel]

Abe_froeman Wrote:

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> Yes Southwark has had its pants pulled down! The

> outcome is likely to be that house prices in the

> area are nudged up again by the sale of 10 luxury

> flats with more wealthy people moving in while

> stocks of affordable housing remain critically

> low.

>

> It's good for those with a vested interest (as

> with the ?40,000 being spent on Melbourne Grove to

> improve the experience for those with buggies),

> not so good for, say, poorly paid nurses hoping to

> live somewhere near King's college hospital.

Erm... You really cannot and should even think about comparing the two!

[gabys1st]

Can't help wondering if you are fairly new to the area, and maybe a high earner. Some of us will remember when Lordship Lane had useful shops for example glaziers and hardware, and people on lower incomes need shops like Iceland.

[James Barber]

Hi gaby1st,

Walsh Glazing is still in the area - but it found it didn't need a high street presence.

We haven't lost any hardware shops.

I think the issue edhistory has highlighted about rate valuations is however very serious if we wish to keep small indie shops on our high street.

[Abe_froeman]

Kel I think there are similarities between the two.

A lot of people petitioned against changes in Melbourne Grove and the council ignored them. A lot of people demanded affordable housing (the policy is national, mandated by a general election) and the council seem to be ignoring it.

Both schemes will also have the side effect of helping the rich get richer.

[Louisa]

I don't about the 'Iceland eyesore', but the current vacant unit, now for well over a year, doesn't exactly rest easy on the eye in my book either! If these bloody people could get a move on that would be helpful. Even I have noticed the collapse in noticeable footfall since the closure of Iceland.

Louisa.

[LondonMix]

The Glazier, hardware store, DIY shops, locksmith, joiner, etc are all still in ED. Sometimes I wonder if people who complain about a lack of useful shops actually live here. The only thing to go is the garden centre and there are two elsewhere in Dulwich within walking distance.

gabys1st Wrote:

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> Can't help wondering if you are fairly new to the

> area, and maybe a high earner. Some of us will

> remember when Lordship Lane had useful shops for

> example glaziers and hardware, and people on lower

> incomes need shops like Iceland.

[gabys1st]

Notice that Sally's written English is pretty crap as well!

[LondonMix]

Sally???