Large police and ambulance incident at the plough

[dimples]

Just to say to avoid the area there as something's happened and it's blocked up !

I hope who ever it is that they will be ok .

[wonderwoman]

Does anyone know what happened?

[Dulwich61]

Youth stabbed in the back on a 176 bus at 0830 - I was on the upper deck having just boarded. Looked serious but not life-threatening.

[dimples]

Yes I've just found out that he is going to be ok , thank god

[uncleglen]

unless he is the sexual predator on the other thread.....

[Mick Mac]

This is awful. Knife crime seems to be out of control.

[Mark]

Here's an interesting podcast about knife crime that talks about a programme being run at King's College Hospital http://bbc.in/2jUMFZ9

[Stalkey]

Redthread is a brilliant charity working in many many local schools and hospitals with youth trapped in violence. Brilliant

[tomskip]

What a terrible incident!

[Jules-and-Boo]

I don't think schools' DO enough to educate children on the dangers of knifes and weapons.

And don't forget, these are children. It's very very sad.

Children that carry knifes are more at risk of getting stabbed by their own knife than they are of actually hurting anyone else with it.

Bullying at school is also rife - some schools do not, or do not know how to deal with it.

I'm very happy the boy is ok, but it's incredibly sad that he would have been on his way to school - he's technically still a child.

[esme]

I think schools and parents need to teach kids to help each other as well as teaching not to bully etc. Finland has a great teaching system in that regard. Lots wrong with our schools and communities but also lots of positives.

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

Jules-and-Boo Wrote:

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> I don't think schools' DO enough to educate

> children on the dangers of knifes and weapons.

Or, you know, parents could do it instead of adding it to the "list of things schools should teach our kids".

[Jules-and-Boo]

I'm not saying it's the schools' responsibility solely, at all.

I know there are parents who leave everything to school, but that isn't my point. Children are together at school and the dynamics are different to the child they are at home.

School's have a zero tolerance policy, but I know that there's a gap between what adults think children understand and what children do actually understand.

There was bullying at my daughter's school, but because it wasn't physical, the children didn't understand it was still bullying.

Knife danger is way down on the curriculum but affecting too many children and taking too many lives for it to be not discussed properly. there are some fantastic resources and opportunities at school, which are different to home.

Parents and schools should work together - the children are part of a community.

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

Jules-and-Boo Wrote:

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> Knife danger is way down on the curriculum

What on the curriculum would you like to remove in order to make room for lessons about the dangers of knives?

[TheArtfulDogger]

Why would you remove anything from the curriculum dogkennelhillbilly?

Surely it should be instilled as a set of standards in the pupils and not a separate lesson replacing something else !

I agree that it is also the parents responsibility as well but it needs to be tackled as a problem by parents, school and society as a whole.

I'm glad the boy in question is okay after the awful incident this morning and my thoughts and prayers are with him and his parents tonight

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

"Why would you remove anything from the curriculum dogkennelhillbilly?"

Because there's not an infinite amount of time and teaching resources available. If you add one thing, you have to remove another.

[uncleglen]

The kids will use anything as a weapon unfortunately. They all think that everyone else has got one so they need to have one. This is, to some extent, true.

[alice]

so you're saying all kids carry a knife. what rubbish.

[Jules-and-Boo]

alice... you would be surprised. Not 'all' but too many.

[bawdy-nan]

Really? "the kids" and their desire for weapons and their belief that all other "the kids" are carrying weapons. That's absolute and utter nonsense and, frankly, irresponsible scare-mongering. Might I suggest you meet and talk to some of "the kids".

I don't doubt that knife crime amongst young people in London is worth taking seriously and applaud, whole-hearetdly the work of organisations like Redthread (do listen to that radio doc it is utterly amazing) but most of "the kids" you will meet, if you deign to engage with them, are passionate, energetic, very hard working and thoughtful. Absolutely worth talking to and listening to.

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

The kids are alright.

[Earl Aelfheah]

Fundamentally, we need to address the wider issue of societies attitudes to what it means to be a boy / man. The idea that you must be tough, aggressive.. stand your ground etc. I know it's judgmental, but I do despair at some of the 'boys will be boy's' type attitudes that prevail.

[JohnL]

rahrahrah Wrote:

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> Fundamentally, we need to address the wider issue

> of societies attitudes to what it means to be a

> boy / man. The idea that you must be tough,

> aggressive.. stand your ground etc. I know it's

> judgmental, but I do despair at some of the 'boys

> will be boy's' type attitudes that prevail.

I thought attitudes had improved - but maybe it's just me

getting older.

When I was young you got in a fight just for accidentally

looking at someone.

[geobz]

rahrahrah Wrote:

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> Fundamentally, we need to address the wider issue

> of societies attitudes to what it means to be a

> boy / man. The idea that you must be tough,

> aggressive.. stand your ground etc. I know it's

> judgmental, but I do despair at some of the 'boys

> will be boy's' type attitudes that prevail.

Lol yes, we've heard that one, whats next? changing the way genitals work, maybe cut them off completely when a child is born and get rid of genders...

[Angelina]

The kids are mostly alright, but they're not REALLY 100% alright, are they?

Not hen we're warning them about killing each other at school/ on their way to or from school.

They need all the help they can get.

Of course most kids are fine, but it's the ones that aren't that need guidance and support. It's exactly the kind of ignorance that is causing problems.

Ask any parent whose child has died if "the kids are alright."