Does ED need a live music venue?

[Kingy]

seemed to be going quite well until somebody mentioned 'the vale pub' - oh well - many have tried and many have failed - still good luck - I wish you all the best with your endevours

[Kingy]

Forgot to add - I can't make it as I am playng that night at Hoopers, with the wonderful Siobhan Parr and the Prisonaires, featuring Bobby Valentino (ex-Bob Dylan band, Tom Petty, Mark Knopfler etc) Tony Reeves (ex-Sandy Denny, Jihn Martyn, Colosseum, John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, Curved Air, Greenslade) Les Morgan (ex-Jo-Anne Kelly Band, current Shed Load of Love)- forgot to mention Siobhan sang with the Alambama 3 and did bv's on the last Squeeze album, she'll be singing with the and, and I worked with Bert Jansch amongst others - and once again it's FREE to get in

Hoopers Bar, ivanhoe Road S5

[Sue]

Blimey, we really need to coordinate our live music nights better so they don't all clash :))

ETA: That's four (at least) live music gigs in the East Dulwich area all on Friday 12 November - hooray!

:)-D

[DJKillaQueen]

I guess the nearest dedicated music venue would be the Brixton Academy...maybe that is the distinction the OP is making as opposed to live music nights in pubs and working mans clubs...of which thare are oodles of all kinds of musical taste in ED (and all well attended).

But where would you find a venue like the Brixton Academy in ED?.....and it would take a wider audience than that of ED to fill it I think. I like 'big' venue gigs.....so the Academy is near enough for me to find those kinds of nights.

[TillieTrotter]

The Beat are playing at The Half Moon in December (check out the website) Not bad a!??!

[BrandNewGuy]

@DJKQ

You're right about Brixton Academy, but it's successful because of its size - 4,500 capacity - so lots of north Londoners are 'forced' to come south of the river. The only other 'big' venues in London are either quite a bit smaller (Shepherds Bush Empire 2,000, The Forum 2,400) or much larger (Wembley Arena 12,500 and the O2 several million...), so it fits a niche.

That said, I'm beginning to dislike large venues and I'm seriously thinking of only going to small venues, pubs and clubs as I feel that's where the heart of the music lies. Unless it's Neil Young playing, in which case I'll go anywhere to see him :-)

[KidKruger]

Defo smaller venues for the real music

[ST&NLY]

An update on the night ahead.

4 acts confirmed. First act starts at 8pm. Dj spins the 1 & 2's from 10pm till 2am

Be a great mix of musicians there, who would love to have your support on the night.

[Jeremy]

Stanley, what sort of PA have you arranged? Is it just a small vocal PA, or something more substantial?

[Sue]

It's quite a small space, doubt there'd be a need for something huge - especially bearing neighbours (if any) in mind :)

[Kingy]

Of course it doesn't need a music venue - it's a no brainer - the crochet thread got more readings and more posts than the thread for a gig and you put quality on the doorstep - anyone for a live needlepoint / crafting / sticker collecting / lonely hearts music club out there ?

Time Out Says :

Great young South London country singer, recently signed to Celtic Collections, plays songs from a forthcoming second album backed by musicians who've worked with Dylan, Mayall and Jansch - Recommended

I'll still have to drag them in

[camberwell70]

ED types like gabbing and chatter more than live music - this forum, I think, is self-evident.

[BrandNewGuy]

Well at least they don't go to gigs in order to gab and chatter like many audiences these days. I'm not one for silence (especially at a 'rock' gig), but I've lost count of the number of times in recent years I've politely asked people to shut up. Sometimes I just show them this picture from the Luminaire, which I have on my phone...

Not sure the reason for this infernal yapping - probably the modern-day overabundance of cocaine... ;-)

[ST&NLY]

Anyone comming to the night (holds breath)....

[Jah Lush]

12th you say? I believe I'm going to see Sly & Reggie at the Old Nuns Head. Sorry.

[Sue]

Sorry we have a Goose gig Upstairs at the Mag.

[Sue]

BrandNewGuy Wrote:

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> Well at least they don't go to gigs in order to

> gab and chatter like many audiences these days.

> I'm not one for silence (especially at a 'rock'

> gig), but I've lost count of the number of times

> in recent years I've politely asked people to shut

> up. Sometimes I just show them this picture from

> the Luminaire, which I have on my phone...

>

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I love that poster!

We have posters up at DHFC asking people to respect the artists and not talk while there's live music, and yes - still people do (and occasionally get arsey if asked not to, though I've never actually had to chuck anybody out yet - though I will if I have to :)) )

[Sue]

Kingy Wrote:

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> Of course it doesn't need a music venue - it's a

> no brainer - the crochet thread got more readings

> and more posts than the thread for a gig and you

> put quality on the doorstep - anyone for a live

> needlepoint / crafting / sticker collecting /

> lonely hearts music club out there ?

>

> Time Out Says :

>

> Great young South London country singer, recently

> signed to Celtic Collections, plays songs from a

> forthcoming second album backed by musicians

> who've worked with Dylan, Mayall and Jansch -

> Recommended

>

> I'll still have to drag them in

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That's because mostly people will only come to see people they've already heard of.

Sad but true.

That's why we sell out for many of our DHFC gigs but some of our Mag gigs with absolutely top musicians don't even attract local Goose punters, because they're not "names".

[Jeremy]

ST&NLY - I won't be there as I am playing a gig myself elsewhere, but good luck.

[Kingy]

can't make it either - got gig of my own

[ST&NLY]

Blimey, I got my work cut out then. This is possibly going to fail so hard. Must try and get a massive group in the venue. Wish me luckQ

[Sue]

Good luck, but at risk of incurring DJKQ's wrath again, and I'm sure you know what you're doing, but are you relying purely on people reading this thread plus your and the bands' friends turning up?

Have you gone down any other routes to promote the gig?

[ST&NLY]

Hello Sue,

I have been to the local arts and music interests in the local and surrounding areas, contacted the Student Unions in Kings College. Word of mouth too. But it seems everyone has something on the 12th. I haven't recieved many replies to my adverts for the night, so I will be interested to see the numbers on Friday evening.

Good times.B)

[Sue]

I do hope it goes well for you and the Vale will have you back :)

[Keef]

I hope The Vale aren't stupid enough to judge after one night. These things can take time.