8 June

[Capitals]

Yes. Der Berliner means doughnut and it's maskulin :-)

[One Who Does]

A quick check shows that JFK actually got it right. Here is the excerpt from Wiki...

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There is a widespread misconception, but only outside of German-speaking countries, that Kennedy made an embarrassing mistake by saying Ich bin ein Berliner. By not leaving out the indefinite article "ein," he supposedly changed the meaning of the sentence from the intended "I am a citizen of Berlin" to "I am a Berliner" (a Berliner being a type of German pastry, similar to a jelly doughnut).

The indefinite article is frequently[10] omitted in German when speaking of an individual's profession or residence but is in any case used when speaking in a figurative sense. Since the President was not literally from Berlin but declaring his solidarity with its citizens, "Ich bin ein Berliner" was the only way to express what he wanted to say.[11][12]

Furthermore, although the word "Berliner"[9][13] is used for a jelly doughnut in the north, west and southwest of Germany, it is not used in Berlin itself or the surrounding region, where the usual word is "Pfannkuchen."

A further part of the misconception is that the audience to his speech laughed at his supposed error. They instead cheered and applauded both times the phrase was used. They laughed and cheered a few seconds after the first use of the phrase, only when the president made an intentional joke. Poking fun at his own pronunciation of the phrase, he said, "I appreciate my interpreter translating my German!"

[steveo]

Ich bin ein Pfannkuchen

Like it

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You looking forward to the approaching shitstorm on Social Media Steveo?

[red devil]

Voted...

First time I've had to queue to vote. High turnout? Tory HQ apparently not as optimistic as this morning...

[rendelharris]

Don't say it...despair I can cope with, hope'll kick you in the nethers every time...

[red devil]

First exit polls at 10, usually get close to the final result...

[jaywalker]

May is toast

[Lordship 516]

I will be so happy to lose my bet..!

[jaywalker]

This is such great news. May will not be PM, Brexit will not happen.

[jaywalker]

Even with the volatility, she is shown to have made a catastrophic mistake.

[Robert Poste's Child]

According to R4 exit polls suggest Cons losing majority though still with largest number of seats, and distribution of seats making it difficult to see how a coalition could be formed. Not sure where that would leave us.

That said, my memory of the last election and the Brexit referendum is that the final result was the opposite of how it looked at this stage, so who knows.

[jaywalker]

the certainty is that May will have to resign as Tory leader.

i agree, not entirely clear what will happen next! I really don't think libdems will go into coalition with Tories. So this is exactly the time for a new centre party.

[Lordship 516]

With Sinn F?in abstaining & the Speaker + assistants not voting then the practical majority is 321

650 - (6+3) = 641

641/2 = 320.5 [321] - will still be a very close call but Thearse May will be dumperd....

YouGov model of poll is closest to the Exit Poll

Conserv 302

Labour 269

LibDem 12

SNP 44 - got Scotland wrong (?)

[rendelharris]

I just opened a celebratory bottle...then saw the 2015 exit poll which said Tories would be 10 short of a majority when in fact they got 22 more than predicted. Oh well, the bottle's open now...

[jaywalker]

Highly likely Vince Cable will be new PM of centre ground. That is my prediction (although I would prefer Clarke, or Clegg). Then 'Brexit' will happen only in name - single market and customs unions and free-movement and everything else of value will be preserved.

Oh happy day.

[red devil]

Either way Rendel, May's position is looking increasingly untenable*. She hasn't got the so-called mandate she wanted for Brexit negotiations, the supposed reason the election was called in the first place. For someone who didn't want May or Corbyn to win this is probably the perfect result, plus the possibility of Brexit being overturned...

*Election Bingo freebie

[jaywalker]

Sterling is in free-fall.

[red devil]

I don't look at the Daily Heil these days, can anyone report on how the frothingatthemouthometer is looking just now?...

[rendelharris]

I like your thinking squire! We shall see. The bookies this morning had Boris as the clear favourite for next Tory leader, which surely would lead them into a world of pain...

[Jules-and-Boo]

Boris and Trump....Heaven help us

[rendelharris]

red devil Wrote:

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> I don't look at the Daily Heil these days, can

> anyone report on how the frothingatthemouthometer

> is looking just now?...

Current headline "MAY MELTDOWN?" Looks like even they're getting worried...

[Lordship 516]

June sees the end of May..!

[red devil]

Green Goose Wrote:

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> I reckon you will lose your bet. It will be much

> closer to, if not, a hung parliament. The young

> (naive & idealistic) voters are highly motivated

> this time and will be a major factor.

Goosey calling it right...

[jaywalker]

Prof. Curtis (who calls it right) is saying Tories will lose overall majority.

There is no one in that party who could secure a coalition except Clarke.