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flapjackdavey Wrote:

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> has anyone noticed that since the tv series Big

> Fat Gypsy Weddings , everything is Big Fat feckin

> this and Big Fat feckin that , everywhere you

> look.?


Absolutely! :))


PS It was only a few days ago that I overheard my neighbour talking about what a great bargain he'd got (false teeth btw) on the "big, fat, feckin' East Dulwich Forum" ...

filmmaker Wrote:

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> Hi All

> I read his thread with interest and so felt I

> should add my comment / observation. I actually

> live opppostie a gypsy site (they prefer to be

> called gypsies rather than travellers) and quite

> recently there was a 'big fat gypsy' wedding which

> went on for 2 and a half days. The dresses were

> pretty much as they are in the documentary and the

> bride is 16 yrs old.

>

> so far that much of the documentary seems to be

> true however, having lived oppostie the site for

> many years, i don't think the women are

> disrespected by the men, as portrayed in the prog.

> form where I sit, and i think i have a pretty

> good view point, from my living room window, it

> seems to be a matriarchal culture. The women seem

> to give as good as they get.

>

> As a documentary maker, I know that showing them

> as people who just happen to live in caravans is

> pretty dull, it just wouldn't make a programme. I

> do however think there is a socio-anthropological

> prog there to be made.


It's good to read your own observations of the gypsy community , careful though it might upset some of the other views on here.


Nette.;-)

Gary Glitters favourite programme I bet.

If you go to Appleby fair, you,ll change your tune,what do you think happens to those girls when they are grabbed or

chosen,they get a kiss,oh dear,they made sure that wasnt revealed didnt they.

It would have to be a brave filmaker to ask such questions.

Even the police dread entering their camps.

They are not Gypsies.travellers with feelings of grandeur.

I've watched with interest as have others. My overall impression from the series is that the women aren't that happy. Sorry I can't remember names but the first of the brides last night would win my award for the most miserable bride ever. The lovely young woman (second bride) who had had to give her job and comfortable family home to live in a caravan with her new husband was a pitiful sight and I admired her honesty.


Can a single person on this forum truly want that for their daughter? Of course they woudn't!


The bare knuckle fight was shocking but preferable surely to the horrible incidents seen so recently in our midst. Perhaps we shouldn't be too quick to condemn elements of our society, Gypsies do seem to have a code of conduct that seems to work well for them. Britains's inner cities arguably don't.

Ann Wrote:

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Perhaps we shouldn't be too quick

> to condemn elements of our society,


I thought that by definition gypsies aren't part of "our society", as they've chosen to live outside of the rules and constraints of society. I'd be surprised if many of them would class themselves as being part of "our society". I find the phrease "travellers" amusing. Most of these people live in static sites, like the one near Millwall. Not much travelling going on there. The only time they seem to buy in to "our society" is when they line up for benefits taken from a purse that they haven't contributed to. Also aren't true gypsies meant to hail from Romania and not Southern Ireland?

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Emerson Crane Wrote:

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> > aren't true gypsies meant to hail from Romania

> and not Southern Ireland?

>

> Gypsies are not necessarily Romani, no.



ok, so where do they hail from?

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