louisiana Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Men, eh? They give you all kinds of guff. But this perhaps the biggest guff I've ever been fed.Copied below is an email from a guy (not local) I had a fairly serious relationship with for a while. As you'll see from what he says. All names and places and everything else that could be used to identify have been removed, to preserve dignity etc. I'd just like you focus on the sentiments he reports, as you read.***I know it's probably not what you wanted to hear but I've had iteating me up for weeks now. Every 5 minutes of every day, I think ofyou. All day long. I think of how we were in good times and I cursemyself for not nurturing that. I know differently now, but for a longtime I was in denial of my true feelings for you. Before I get toocarried away here, let me say I realise we DID have our troubled timesand I DID handle those badly, but that's my unreconstructed selfcoming to the fore, I should have been a bit more generous with myemotions instead of the selfish arse that I must have been.So what's changed? I have. Quite simply, I've had the realisation(probably for the last 6 months or more) that you and I were very veryspecial. Of all the relationships and marriages I've had over my lifeso far, no one has touched me so deeply as you did. I know I foughtagainst it, I admit that, although in my defence I once had thisnaive notion that I'd play the field just after I'd got divorced [editor's note: for the third time]. Intruth I look back on our early days together as quite wonderful, youwere a complete rewrite of my life and I've only just realised it. Wehad some great times of course, and in some ways that's the driver orthis email. Do yo think I could ever go back on a walking holiday tothe xxx Isles without you? Do you think I could ever go on a cyclingholiday without you, wherever that might be? And do you think I couldever go dancing or to a festival or just to a 'listening' gig withoutlonging for you to be next to me?Every day I find some new piece of music and *ache* to talk to youabout it. To bring it to you, to lay in bed and drink it in together.It only works with you, I know that now. Maybe you do too.Over the past few weeks - as I've built up the courage to say all thisto you - I've realised what I did wrong over the period of ourrelationship. Ok, I think the spell working in xxx did for us morethan I realised at the time, but more fundamentally I didn't give youthe support you needed at that critical time xxx. I should have been morethere for you.There was always the seemingly insolvable problem of where we lived.Not to go over it again, I fully understand why you never ever wouldhave seen xxx as viable, and from my side, trying to balance work(as it used to be) and keeping close proximity to xxx and xxx. Ifyou and I find a way to resume a life together I propose moving awayfrom xxx, and would offer up a suggestion that I could more inwith you for most of the week, then spend a day or two back here tofulfil my obligations to xxx. That's a temporary solution of course,but it's way better that anything we actually achieved while we weretogether. In the coming year I hope we could find a tenant for thisplace and I take a rental on somewhere for us together. Not surewhere that would be, London or country, but it's something we couldplan for.Short term, I have dreams of you and I going away together again. Xxxwould be superb, we could do the southern area south of xxx, thatwe missed last time. Or later on, xxx, or xxx again, or all ofthe above? :)It just takes the will, and the faith that what we had was more thatjust a passing thing (it was WAY more than that). I mean it when I sayI want t spend the rest of my days with you. I want t grow old in yourcompany. I want to enjoy that relaxation. You've loved me in the past,perhaps you can see that again and help to nurture us though areconciliation? I think we both have strong love for eachother and it should be given a chance.I'm fully aware this will not go down well with your friends, andthat's a big hurdle you'd need to cross. I realise my name is probablymud with everyone. Please, just follow your heart.***This email was followed a few hours later (the next morning) by another from the same guy that said "Wow. Who says men can't express their emotions :)"I'd been drinking with xxx yesterday and I've no doubt that gave methe courage to call and write to you, and so I just re-read what I'dwritten (in case I'd gone over the top) and no, I've no regrets, quitethe opposite :)"and"If now isn't a good time for you then I'll wait."and"Looking forward to having a chat sometime, when you've thought all this through."***It's actually a not bad portrayal of what had happened, give or take bits here and there. (Note: on work - we both work from home. On my friends and what they would have thought: he never met them, as he never hung around long enough to meet them - in four years - so they actually have no view.)However, calls in response to these two emails were never returned. And he's actually going out with someone else. :-SI think I shall file this one under *fantasist fiction*. 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Jah Lush Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Desperate! That makes me feel embarrassed for my fellow man. A three times loser. My word what a twat. I do not know you Louisana but you are so much better off without this pathetic specimen of human life. Onwards and upwards. Next! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15770-dedicated-to-lovers-everywhere/#findComment-410748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Playa......without a shadow of a doubt Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15770-dedicated-to-lovers-everywhere/#findComment-410750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
louisiana Posted February 13, 2011 Author Share Posted February 13, 2011 Jah, his three failed marriages were definitely a clue. I plead guilty as charged :-$ Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15770-dedicated-to-lovers-everywhere/#findComment-410751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Ego on overdrive, us men are quite fond of ourselves sometimes! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15770-dedicated-to-lovers-everywhere/#findComment-410753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
louisiana Posted February 13, 2011 Author Share Posted February 13, 2011 Atticus, the cognitive dissonance going on there is something to behold, no? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15770-dedicated-to-lovers-everywhere/#findComment-410754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeban Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Wow, words cannot even describe what a complete and utter sad *@%& he clearly is. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15770-dedicated-to-lovers-everywhere/#findComment-410755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Playa, palya, play THIS is the only bit he really means..... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15770-dedicated-to-lovers-everywhere/#findComment-410756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Great description but I'd say that he's more calculated than that, he's just twisted everything. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15770-dedicated-to-lovers-everywhere/#findComment-410757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuLu Too Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 I got bored by sentence three of paragraph two, when I got to the word "marriages"(note: plural!)>Yawn...I trust you have moved on Louisiana? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15770-dedicated-to-lovers-everywhere/#findComment-410760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 There's generally two types of blokes: the ones that, for them, writing this letter would be an emotional mountain and would leave them in an entirely vulnerable space. The other type is the one that realises that "chicks dig this emotional stuff".I think we can safely assume he is one of the latter. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15770-dedicated-to-lovers-everywhere/#findComment-410761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 The above just goes to show the lengths some guys will go to to get their CD's back from past girlfriends. At any rate, you've got to admire the ruthless subterfuge this guy's employing. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15770-dedicated-to-lovers-everywhere/#findComment-410763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
louisiana Posted February 13, 2011 Author Share Posted February 13, 2011 Scribe, I'm actually the girl with all the CDs :) cursing all the exes that have walked off with my classic vinyl. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15770-dedicated-to-lovers-everywhere/#findComment-410768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 The final vinyl, that's when you know it's over.Time for the old Prisoner Cell Block H theme tune. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15770-dedicated-to-lovers-everywhere/#findComment-410770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daizie Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Sounds like a drama queen who wants attention . Poor you louisiana.Id have ignored him or sent a message back saying 'who is it' ? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15770-dedicated-to-lovers-everywhere/#findComment-410771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brum Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Give the bloke a break. He's done nothing wrong other than try to win back an ex girlfriend! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15770-dedicated-to-lovers-everywhere/#findComment-410782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Well......he's asked you to follow your heart. Have you?What does it say? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15770-dedicated-to-lovers-everywhere/#findComment-410783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Yeh Brum, you're right his sincerity should win the day, seems like a nice guy after all. I'd like to buy this guy a pint. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15770-dedicated-to-lovers-everywhere/#findComment-410786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brum Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 legalbeagle Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Well......he's asked you to follow your heart. > > Have you?> > What does it say?I think I can guess! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15770-dedicated-to-lovers-everywhere/#findComment-410787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Uh-oh... The latest posts confirm that the mob can be a fickle beast, Louisiana. I'm going to occupy the neutral ground by declaring that your actions on this thread deeply disgust me - until proven otherwise, that is. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15770-dedicated-to-lovers-everywhere/#findComment-410790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 I'm not taking sides either way. Just asking. I think it's clear Louisiana isn't keen, but I'm interested to know whether she is in no doubt at all, wonders if there could be a grain of truth, or took ages wavering before deciding. I find it's rare I'm this certain about anything, so I'm curious. Unless he is an irredeemable plonker, he must have some good points, no? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15770-dedicated-to-lovers-everywhere/#findComment-410793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
louisiana Posted February 13, 2011 Author Share Posted February 13, 2011 legalbeagle Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Well......he's asked you to follow your heart. > > Have you?> > What does it say?Well legalbeagle, I followed my instinct, which said he was an insincere time waster incapable of keeping his trousers up, which proved to be correct. There appear to have been different lines fed to various women, perhaps with varying degrees of insincerity. Which I am reminded of when I open up the Address Book on my Macbook and see "Alison from Soulmates" splashed across the screen. (Yes, he inadvertently dumped his 'dating contacts' on my machine.) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15770-dedicated-to-lovers-everywhere/#findComment-410794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 And at this point I will gracefully retreat, and give up any hope of putting the alternative view. The bloke is an unmitigated arse. Run to the hills. Really. If you see hills, start running towards them. I cannot help this man. And nor should you.Alison might though? After he's blown her up, of course...... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15770-dedicated-to-lovers-everywhere/#findComment-410795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 If backpedaling was an Olympic sport, Atticus, I can guaruntee that you'd be in with a shot for the gold. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15770-dedicated-to-lovers-everywhere/#findComment-410796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brum Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 I too am feeling less sympathetic to this guy. His silky patter almost had me there.... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15770-dedicated-to-lovers-everywhere/#findComment-410797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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