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Phlox

Phlox

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sedm Wrote:

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> Phlox - the initial jabs were done by Battersea so

> I don't blame them for using economical vaccines &

> having a policy to vaccinate before new owners

> take the cats... My cat was just an unlucky one


I meant which vet from the Neighbourhood Vet thought that your cat had vaccine damage? Battersea should do titering on animals instead of jabbing them with vaccines, just in case. It?s not just Battersea that does it. Lots of rescue places and shelters do it. Doesn?t make it right.

bcam

bcam

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We have had nothing but great, caring service from Neighbourhood Vet. They were amazing with our terminally ill cat, and gave him a happy, comfortable end of life, and us excellent, truthful advice.


This seems like a bit (*LOT) of a conjecture thread to be honest, and regarding routine medication such as flea and worm medication, you can buy these from the web at a cheaper rate, much in the same was as I can buy a bottle of beer cheaper than in a pub.


With regards to unnecessary treatments, either post specifics with backed up comparisons, or this is red-carded as a whingey witch hunt.


Phlox - you seem very knowledgeable about vaccines. Have you formally studied veterinary medicine? Are you a qualified practitioner? If so, which practice do you work out of? Do you have children? Are they vaccinated?

P.O.U.S.theWonderCat

P.O.U.S.theWonderCat

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bcam Wrote:

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> This seems like a bit (*LOT) of a conjecture

> thread to be honest, and regarding routine

> medication such as flea and worm medication, you

> can buy these from the web at a cheaper rate, much

> in the same was as I can buy a bottle of beer

> cheaper than in a pub.



Ah, the irony of someone conjecturing about others conjecturing.


This is a forum. People are entitled to post their view of their experiences, positive and negative. Just because you rate them highly doesn't mean everyone else has to, or is wrong when they say they had negative experiences.


As I mentioned, I had an independent vet verify my concerns. When it first happened, I spoke to several people via private message who had similar experiences that were more than just "conjecture". Has it occured to you that we might have reasons for not wanting to be too specific on a forum? As I stated, I am still using them, with another one of their vets. Others may not want to be identified for other reasons. That doesn't make it a witch hunt - and it makes your attempt to shut down the conversation concerning.


*edited to correct typos.

Phlox

Phlox

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Bcam,

I?m not a vet, but I had an animal damaged by a vaccine, who subsequently died a week later. The vet who administered the injection admitted that it did happen. Until that point, I had believed most, but not all things that vets had recommended.


Humans don?t have annual vaccinations, so why should an animal? Thinking has also changed as to when the best time to vaccinate an animal is. Not at 6 or 8 weeks, but later. Rabies, if necessary, shouldn?t be given until 6 months at the earliest. Lots of people in the U.K. are now giving a rabies shot because they travel with their pet. One rabies shot should be good for life, and this can be proved by a titre test. An unwell animal should never be given a vaccination. It says so on the drug labels. Rabies doses should be given according to an animal?s weight, instead of the same dose for a 10lb dog as for a Great Dane.


Regarding routine medication, like flea and worm treatment, what is the point of putting poison on or in your animal unless there is something specific to treat? With regard to worming, there is a company in the U.K. called Worm Count. They can test and advise on any animal, instead making your family member endure unnecessary treatment.

HelBel65

HelBel65

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I agree with this. It happens a lot on the EDF. Not long ago someone posted about how they?d ?heard? that a local building company ?may not? have done something correctly......pure anecdote with nothing to back it up but naming the company, who, unless they happened to read the post, had no opportunity to protect their reputation. A few weeks before, someone else named a local restaurant where they thought they had got food poisoning, but weren?t 100% sure!



Raised by Bears Wrote:

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> From a small business standpoint, OP's post is

> anecdotal and and that can be very damaging on

> such a busy forum. It's a little unfair for NV,

> there is nothing factual to respond to.

Phlox

Phlox

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Raised by Bears Wrote:

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> I guess the routine injections are classed as

> boosters rather than full vaccinations. We have 3

> cats and it would be difficult to board them

> without these boosters. Also some insurers insist

> on them as part of their commitment to cover.


You need to look into titering. ?Some? insurers insist.......can you be more specific? Why would you want to board your pet somewhere that insisted on over vaccination?

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Administrator

Administrator

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HelBel65 Wrote:

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> I agree with this. It happens a lot on the EDF.


You're guilty of doing that anecdotal thing right there, it does not "happen a lot on the EDF", there's about 500 posts a day and what, one every couple of months 'might mention a company who might have done something'? I'm not defending it because they can be deliberately malicious covered in an easy to swallow facade of innocence or feigned passive aggressive ignorance. I've not read all the posts by the way, I'm sure you're all adult enough to discuss sensibly.


I'm just confused about how people are concerned about being overcharged for unnecessary treatments. Surely just being charged for unnecessary treatments is bad.

Phlox

Phlox

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HelBel65 Wrote:

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> On the specific point about NV charging for, or

> recommending, unnecessary treatment and meds, one

> of my cats had to be on a particular med long

> term, and they suggested I buy it online as it was

> significantly cheaper.


Good of you to commend them for this. Did they charge you to write out a prescription?

HelBel65

HelBel65

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No - they told me what to look for, as it's a non prescription treatment used by humans too.

Next?


Phlox Wrote:

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> HelBel65 Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > On the specific point about NV charging for, or

> > recommending, unnecessary treatment and meds,

> one

> > of my cats had to be on a particular med long

> > term, and they suggested I buy it online as it

> was

> > significantly cheaper.

>

> Good of you to commend them for this. Did they

> charge you to write out a prescription?

Phlox

Phlox

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HelBel65 Wrote:

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> No - they told me what to look for, as it's a non

> prescription treatment used by humans too.

> Next?

>

> Phlox Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > HelBel65 Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > On the specific point about NV charging for,

> or

> > > recommending, unnecessary treatment and meds,

> > one

> > > of my cats had to be on a particular med long

> > > term, and they suggested I buy it online as

> it

> > was

> > > significantly cheaper.

> >

> > Good of you to commend them for this. Did they

> > charge you to write out a prescription?


You didn?t say it was non prescription. Most vets do charge though, to write out a prescription to get the drugs cheaper from somewhere else.

Phlox

Phlox

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cactus Wrote:

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> I think I'm in agreement with the OP.

> Flea treatment and 1 worming pill for our cat -

> ?47

> 5 min consultation and an unnecessary anti

> sickness injection - ?56

> I know as a cat owner I have to factor in vet

> visits, it's part of the deal when keeping a pet,

> but the costs are a

> bit hefty.


Instead of giving your cat or dog (or other animal) a worming pill/treatment, use http://wormcount.com to test for worms.

HelBel65

HelBel65

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My point is that NV do sell this non prescription treatment, but because it was going to be a long term thing, they suggested I buy it elsewhere because I could get it in greater quantities much cheaper.



> You didn?t say it was non prescription. Most vets

> do charge though, to write out a prescription to

> get the drugs cheaper from somewhere else.

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