Your views on Foie Gras

[Otta]

And just because you don't like dog fights and badger baiting, why should I miss out!

[david_carnell]

Because foie gras isn't illegal, I would imagine.

It's a free, moral decision. Not a legal one. Currently.

[Otta]

I know David.

[david_carnell]

So then it's not really fair to compare the two, is it?

Seriously, I'm with Horsebox on this. The proselytizing from Thomas and his crowd is getting right up my chuff.

I'm fine if people disagree with this or any other food stuff production, and they can continue to educate and advertise their beliefs (as I've done numerous times on food issues I feel strongly about like bread) and I'll debate it here with him till I'm blue-in-the-face. But I think prevention of being able to obtain a legally available food stuff enjoyed by thousands if not millions around the world by a small, minority-interest cabal seems at best unhealthy and at worst dictatorial.

[Otta]

No, not fair at all, I was just being obnoxious. And having a bit of a joke.

Everything seems to be getting a bit serious on here today, I think I'm better off shutting up for the moment.

[mockney piers]

my moral high horse > your moral high horse

*sorry moos*

[Otta]

I will just say that I think the word dictatorial has no place on this thread, even though I take your point.

[david_carnell]

Otta - if you were just being sarcastic then I apologise. As we all know it gets lost on the page when in person it would be obvious.

And Piers - climb on up - the view is lovely.

[Alan Medic]

That's a load of bollix DC. Just because its legal doesn't make it right. How exactly, while it is legal, are you being prevented from stuffing your face with it whenever you want?

[Loz]

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> How exactly, while it is legal, are you being prevented from stuffing your

> face with it whenever you want?

Well, if a bunch of veggie-fundamentalists run around stopping everyone from selling it...

[maxxi]

veggie fundamentalists are the worst - they won't even eat lamb's leaf lettuce, cow parsley or beef tomatoes.

[LadyDeliah]

So with your argument, DC, things like bear bating, dog fighting etc would never have been made illegal.

I think the problem comes with challenging cruelty to animals that has been enjoyed by the upper classes.

Working class cruelty to animals seems not to be as defendable by the great and the good!

[Alan Medic]

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> > How exactly, while it is legal, are you being

> prevented from stuffing your

> > face with it whenever you want?

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> Well, if a bunch of veggie-fundamentalists run

> around stopping everyone from selling it...

I'm not a veggie fundamentalist yet, but if I were, how would you suggest I stop them from selling it?

[david_carnell]

LadyDeliah Wrote:

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> So with your argument, DC, things like bear

> bating, dog fighting etc would never have been

> made illegal.

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> I think the problem comes with challenging cruelty

> to animals that has been enjoyed by the upper

> classes.

>

> Working class cruelty to animals seems not to be

> as defendable by the great and the good!

OMG - you're turning this into a class issue?! Wha...? Are you potty? There is no class issue at play here with anyone other than you. You think I ate swan for breakfast this morning or something? I didn't. I had bacon. See, common-as-muck me!

This is an issue of personal freedom to pursue an activity fully within the law. If you want to campaign to change that law, fine. Do so. In the meantime, leave me and my foodstuffs in peace.

[mockney piers]

And let's bring back fox hunting whilst we're at it.

The mocklet almost played with a nice fox log laid on my doorstep this morning.

[Annette Curtain]

david_carnell Wrote:

You think I

> ate swan for breakfast this morning or something?

No David....

Swan as you well know is an Immigration issue .

Really it is.

NETTE:-S

[Thomas Micklewright]

The idea of not opposing something because at thus moment in time its legal seems a little silly. Otherwise wed still be owning slaves and women wouldn't have the vote.

I think lobbying businesses and politicians goes hand in hand. Infact in most cases businesses (especially in the food industry) have more power than politicians, so making the food provider change their output can be more effective than bringing MPs on board to force a change in the law that usually takes years.

Are you suggesting urban fox hunting mockney? Actually dog kennel hill used to be dog hunting kennels for royalty (surprise suprise!)

[Loz]

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> > > How exactly, while it is legal, are you being prevented from stuffing your

> > > face with it whenever you want?

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> > Well, if a bunch of veggie-fundamentalists run

> > around stopping everyone from selling it...

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> I'm not a veggie fundamentalist yet, but if I

> were, how would you suggest I stop them from

> selling it?

Like I'm going to give you ideas.

[david_carnell]

Thomas

Yet again you're misinterpreting what I'm saying. I've repeatedly said you are more than welcome to oppose the eating and production foie gras. Kudos to you. Just keep it theoretical.

I think removing the freedom of choice from others is wrong.

[ianr]

And on the Eighth Day the talking continued. And there was no end to it, neither was it resolved.

[Salsaboy]

Save a cow. Eat a vegan.

[Alan Medic]

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> > > > How exactly, while it is legal, are you

> being prevented from stuffing your

> > > > face with it whenever you want?

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> > > Well, if a bunch of veggie-fundamentalists

> run

> > > around stopping everyone from selling it...

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> > I'm not a veggie fundamentalist yet, but if I

> > were, how would you suggest I stop them from

> > selling it?

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> Like I'm going to give you ideas.

Well why not? It's a forum isn't it?

[The Minkey]

Being against the sale of foie gras isn't just a veggie/vegan stance, I'm a meat eater.

[maxxi]

And I'm an atheist but I'm not going to campaign to try and persuade churches in the area to stop catering for the locally deluded. I am happy to let them kneel down and murmur all they please - so either campaign to have FG made illegal through parliament etc. or leave it - and local businesses that may want to serve it - alone.

[Frankito]

I think we should start a counter-campaign to get more shops selling foie gras; I am starting with the dude who cuts my hair... Think big!