Apparently a new vegan junk food delivery is coming to ED

[wayne10]

Just saw a post on facebook saying a vegan fast food delivery service is opening in east dulwich, which looks pretty good. I will definitely be trying one of their burgers. I find it so hard to find a decent vegan burger from just eat.

https://www.veganplates.co.uk

[Jules-and-Boo]

sounds fab :-) got a bit excited then .....

but its just vegan version of burgers, hot dogs and kbabs - even celebrating the same texture (they've assumed that's a good thing).

Not very inspiring and completely missing an opportunity.

[Elphinstone's Army]

It all looks disgusting. You are right JandB, an opportunity lost. This is vegan food made in their own home kitchen.

M&S, Sainsbury, etc., are way behind this new eating philosophy, Lordship Lane needs a dedicated vegan restaurant

and takeaway.

[Sue]

My grandkids are vegan.

They love vegan burgers, and I wouldn't describe them as junk food (depending what is in them, obviously).

They aren't full of fat, for a start.

[Jules-and-Boo]

I know - I'm not going to go through all the obvious things, but removing Junk from their title (i.e. main selling point) would be a good start.

Fast Food, maybe. Junk food - even McDonald's avoid labelling their offerings as junk food - and they are the definition

[rendelharris]

Jules-and-Boo Wrote:

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> I know - I'm not going to go through all the

> obvious things, but removing Junk from their title

> (i.e. main selling point) would be a good start.

They haven't put junk in their title at all, it's not mentioned anywhere in their website - that's just something Wayne put in his thread title. They're called Vegan Plates East Dulwich.

Personally as someone who's been a vegan for three decades, I loved meat before giving it up on ethical/environmental grounds and anything that's a good simulacrum of a hot dog or a burger will get me through the door!

[Jules-and-Boo]

Fair enough. Guess everyone's different.

[Robert Poste's Child]

Elphinstone's Army Wrote:

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> Lordship Lane needs a dedicated

> vegan restaurant and takeaway.

Doesn't the Blue Brick Cafe do takeaways? You could maybe suggest it to them if not.

[wayne10]

I agree with rendel, although I have been a vegan for only 4 months now due to ethical and health reasons, I have found myself craving a burger from time to time, I miss the taste, however I am more aware of the sentient beings and the treatment of them. I'm going to order from them tonight and will give my verdict.

rendelharris Wrote:

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> Jules-and-Boo Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > I know - I'm not going to go through all the

> > obvious things, but removing Junk from their

> title

> > (i.e. main selling point) would be a good

> start.

>

> They haven't put junk in their title at all, it's

> not mentioned anywhere in their website - that's

> just something Wayne put in his thread title.

> They're called Vegan Plates East Dulwich.

>

> Personally as someone who's been a vegan for three

> decades, I loved meat before giving it up on

> ethical/environmental grounds and anything that's

> a good simulacrum of a hot dog or a burger will

> get me through the door!

[Sue]

Robert Poste's Child Wrote:

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> Elphinstone's Army Wrote:

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> > Lordship Lane needs a dedicated

> > vegan restaurant and takeaway.

>

> Doesn't the Blue Brick Cafe do takeaways? You

> could maybe suggest it to them if not.

Please don't suggest it to them! Their food will take even longer to arrive than it already does if their kitchen has to cater for takeaways as well!

[Jules-and-Boo]

Looking forward to hearing your verdict Wayne 😀

[budleigh]

blue brick don't seem to have more than one vegan option on their menu? and is usually a boring salad. seems like a missed opportunity. can t wait to hear on the verdict! i'm so ready for a vegan takeaway

[wayne10]

I just finished a burger with vegan bacon and cheese and I have say I'm pleasantly surprised, It tasted smokey and the texture was a unique melt in the mouth. Other vegan burgers I've had in the past have disappointed me due to being bland and cardboardy, one of my favourite burgers I discovered was by Linda McCartney but.... I didn't think I would be saying this, this burger from them has out done the Linda ones for me. I wasn't a huge fan of the Mac & cheese as it wasn't to flavoursome. The churros are to die for! So all in all, I am definitely going to be a regular customer and I think its fab!

[tomskip]

Don't you vegans worry about the enormous amount of food processing that goes in to manufacturing something called vegan "cheese" and vegan "bacon".

[rendelharris]

tomskip Wrote:

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> Don't you vegans worry about the enormous amount

> of food processing that goes in to manufacturing

> something called vegan "cheese" and vegan "bacon".

Thanks, I won't. Have you worried about the amount of processing that goes into providing meat and dairy? The figures are easily accessible online, have a bingo. I'll give you a quick precis if you can't be bothered, per kilo beef takes 1500% more land than soya, 1000% more fossil fuel, 2000% more water and 600% more chemicals (pesticides etc).

[rendelharris]

wayne10 Wrote:

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> I just finished a burger with vegan bacon and

> cheese and I have say I'm pleasantly surprised, It

> tasted smokey and the texture was a unique melt in

> the mouth. Other vegan burgers I've had in the

> past have disappointed me due to being bland and

> cardboardy, one of my favourite burgers I

> discovered was by Linda McCartney but.... I didn't

> think I would be saying this, this burger from

> them has out done the Linda ones for me. I wasn't

> a huge fan of the Mac & cheese as it wasn't to

> flavoursome. The churros are to die for! So all in

> all, I am definitely going to be a regular

> customer and I think its fab!

Thanks for the review Wayne, I shall definitely be trying it out!

[Jules-and-Boo]

Sounds brilliant!

[tomskip]

No, I'm not talking about resources. I don't worry too much about my intake of meat and dairy as I'm sure it's way below average for a westerner. And what I do eat is free range or organic. But I do worry about eating highly mucked about with manufactured food that spends much of it's life in a lab such as, I suspect, vegan "bacon" and vegan "cheese".

[Sue]

budleigh Wrote:

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> blue brick don't seem to have more than one vegan

> option on their menu? and is usually a boring

> salad. seems like a missed opportunity. can t wait

> to hear on the verdict! i'm so ready for a vegan

> takeaway

Haven't been in there for a while, but I'm pretty sure they have at least four vegan options, including yummy hot things!

[Sue]

The vegan cheese I have tried tastes nothing like non vegan cheese, but hey ho.

I am teetering on the brink. Still eat meat (rarely at home), still eat eggs, still eat dairy.

Sorry, off topic :(

[rendelharris]

tomskip Wrote:

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> No, I'm not talking about resources. I don't worry

> too much about my intake of meat and dairy as I'm

> sure it's way below average for a westerner. And

> what I do eat is free range or organic. But I do

> worry about eating highly mucked about with

> manufactured food that spends much of it's life in

> a lab such as, I suspect, vegan "bacon" and vegan

> "cheese".

You could say regular cheese is highly processed and "mucked about with", couldn't you? It's one of the earliest processed foods!

[budleigh]

Thanks Sue, I will investigate!!

[budleigh]

tomskip Wrote:

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> No, I'm not talking about resources. I don't worry

> too much about my intake of meat and dairy as I'm

> sure it's way below average for a westerner. And

> what I do eat is free range or organic. But I do

> worry about eating highly mucked about with

> manufactured food that spends much of it's life in

> a lab such as, I suspect, vegan "bacon" and vegan

> "cheese".

I've made vegan cheese at home and they usually have about 3-4 "natural" ingredients (carrot, potato, nutritional yeast, maybe some oil). hardly lab processed.

[rendelharris]

budleigh Wrote:

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> I've made vegan cheese at home and they usually

> have about 3-4 "natural" ingredients (carrot,

> potato, nutritional yeast, maybe some oil). hardly

> lab processed.

Any tips for the best recipes? My old man is a keen (non-vegan) cheese maker (blessed are they etc) and is always complaining that he can't find a good recipe for making stuff for me.

[Dulwich Born And Bred]

The cheeses in supermarkets are processed and horrible but Ocado sell an almond nut cheese and I get my nut cheeses from here https://www.tynechease.com it?s natural with minimal ingredients.