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Gina bean - They are not just stupid schoolchildren. There are many grown men in their 20s and 30s doing this, the same type as Duggan who carry around illegal hand guns (police have confirmed Duggan had an illegal weapon and it was not a replica). I appreciate you are trying to be reassuring but it's misleading f some are thinking we can take some of these people on.

honestly, it amazes me how a few school kids with masks and bats have scared an entire community. Why are people scared of their own shadows, hiding indoors and allowing these people to ruin local shops and businesses?


There are thousands of people of this forum. Do people really not have the balls to unite together and stand out in the streets to stop these idiots?? I am disgusted to the bottom of my stomach. Still, I suppose ED is now just full of liberal lefty do-gooders whose only hope is that they don't get affected. We have been too tolerant for too long as a society regarding anti-social behaviour and this is the result.


Power to the People.

Just after 8:00, 3 police vans and one police motorbike went down Lordship Lane, heading away from the station towards the Library. No engine noises or anything else.


Also saw one policeman walking slowly down the street. Good police presence, nothing else going on.


Most shops closed, some boarded up, but locals still out and about and having drinks outside.

We have just got back from a relatively busy Hisar restaurant on Lordship Lane - we just wanted to say dinner was yummy (as always) and thank you to the staff for keeping the place open and feeding the good folk of ED!


For info - Londis (end of Northcross Road) was just about to close, we just managed to get in in time to get a couple of ice creams for dessert!


We thought it was important to support our local businesses while things are a bit tough out there - they didn't let us down.

I was in Franklins from 7-9pm and there was a group of 'hoodies' lingering. Gradually more of them arrived and they disappeared after awhile but not without tapping on the boards of the butchers shop as if 'casing the joint.' It may be nothing but I thought that yesterday when at 9.15pm a group of hoodies were on the corner and now I realise that had something to do with the Londis looting and smashing of windows. I hope it's nothing but it's hard not to worry.

Amazing the effect that closing Coop early has had on Londis. After a horrific night for them last night, they had queues of shoppers out of the door tonight.

Palmerston was busy too. Great to see people rallying round the places that got hit.


Sirens seem to have died down too.

Hopefully a quiet night tonight.

What is the matter with you, I was in Franklins and saw the same three local young people as gem80, they happened to be black, one of them wearing a hood they walked out of Bywater Street, passing William Rose's inexplicably boarded up shop, they must have remarked on the boards which one of them tapped. They crossed the road to the Pizza shop and bought some food. This whole situation is being made worse by a mass of information. Lordship Lane is peaceful.

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