Atticus Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 yep and Liverpool fans I'm sure will be perplexed (those not from Norway). Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/451/#findComment-541141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Parkdrive Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Go on Woy, show the FA what you're made of. Wonder> what the Spurs excuse will be now that the FA have> said they've only approached the one manager.Why? Who? Do you give a shit? I think not. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/451/#findComment-541143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undisputedtruth Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 I guess it makes more sense to appoint Roy Hodgson for the England job given his international experience. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/451/#findComment-541206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxi Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Yeah - International experience at a low level. But he is of course "one of the most respected coaches in Europe" (as he himself is always keen to point out whenever anyone dares criticise him).He has never shown he can handle big name players and - imho - is pompous, self important (a perfect fit for the FA blazers) and autocratically unimaginative. He will probably make Bobby Zamora Rooney's main strike partner and will insist players wear ties at all times. What England players need is inspiration and the encouragement to display the talent they show at club level (and shed the inhibitions they usually show and the fear they appear to play under). The last manager to do that was El Tel and the only one who could do it atm is Redknapp.#Graham Taylor mkII. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/451/#findComment-541226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 I think the biggest issue is hios ability to deal with the egos. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/451/#findComment-541231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undisputedtruth Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 I'm not so sure, Maxxi. He has managed Inter Milan and took Switzerland to the 1994 world cup. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/451/#findComment-541233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Otta Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I think the biggest issue is hios ability to deal> with the egos.Unlike with Liverpool, for England he does not need to select the bigger egos. At club level big money is paid for players and they need to be on the pitch - at international level there are no such obligations. It will be interesting to see his first squad selection to see if its a new era or the old guard, or somewhere in between. I remember when Bobby Robson left out Kevin Keegan from his first squad. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/451/#findComment-541242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Indeed MickIt's interesting how many people mention the ego dressing rooms, as if the manager who can't handle them is the problem, and not the egosI would argue it's those same egos which has played a large part in England failures Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/451/#findComment-541245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 What Maxxi said.Currently England are the West Brom of the international scene (forget FIFA rankings), so in that respect it's a perfect fit too.The only good thing to come out of this is that the fans' expectations will now be lowered, and therefore less disappointment will ensue when we fail to get out of the group stage... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/451/#findComment-541251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Indeed MickIt's interesting how many people mention the ego dressing rooms, as if the manager who can't handle them is the problem, and not the egosI would argue it's those same egos which has played a large part in England failuresDon't think anyone has blamed the manager for not being able to deal with the egos, and yes, the egos are the problem. The answer? Either drop the egos, but risk dropping your best players, or put the egos in their place, like a Ferguson would be able to do.Will be interesting to see whether he picks any Liverpool players! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/451/#findComment-541256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chippy Minton Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 I agree with Otta. We need to pick our best players regardless of their egos. A good manager - and the England manager is meant to be the very best - should be able to deal with the modern multi-millionaries like Ferguson does with Rooney, Ferdinand, Nani et al. If you have to drop people because you can't manage their egos, you aren't good enough to be the England manager. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/451/#findComment-541264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxi Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Egos schmegos - Capello (who was picked because of his international experience and supposed tactical nous) knew how to handle egos and he was the choice of the egos in the England dressing room (apparently) - besides, it wasn't egos that had England playing like frightened rabbits it was FEAR and the last thing they need is a headmaster telling them what to do. So how is Hodgson better than, or an alternative to, Capello?England need different. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/451/#findComment-541268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undisputedtruth Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 England need different.Mourhino perhaps. Players seems to respect him and he respects English football. I don't think there will be a perfect England manager though. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/451/#findComment-541298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peckhamgatecrasher Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Here you go Mick, choke on thathttp://www.luxury-insider.com/uploads/news/2011/09/charly300_2.jpgWill be interesting to see if Rangers develop a really good youth side/training programme now they are restricted on transfers. I've long thought that overeseas players should be limited per side in order to bring on young talent. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/451/#findComment-541299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Hmmm.... it'll always be a two horse race in Scotland though. As for Woy's appointment he does have the international and European experience that Harry doesn't and of course he is the cheaper option at ?2 million a year. Whereas Harry's buyout clause alone is according some newspaper reports as much as ?15 million. Daniel Levy has been very shrewd in looking after his club's "asset" to keep the FA away from what would perhaps have been the people's and the popular press's choice and as a Spurs fan I'd prefer it if Harry stayed right where he is. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/451/#findComment-541332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 As a Liverpool supporter, I want to see Roy do well, and wish him the very best of luck. Have been quite shocked at some of the comments I've seen on FB, calling him a c**t and a born loser. Liverpool got rid of him and gave Kenny the job, why would people still hold a grudge?!? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/451/#findComment-541342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizenED Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Great mind-games from Fergie, cunningly losing 1-0 to Citeh knowing that Utd will stuff Swansea 12-0 on Sunday. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/451/#findComment-541378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkdrive Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Knight of the realm squaring up to Mancini, shame your team didn't carry the same fight to City that you did. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/451/#findComment-541387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxi Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 A minor spat during the game - at least he had the dignity to shake hands at the end - something not every manager has the grace (Wenger I'm looking at you) to do. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/451/#findComment-541390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Last night's result was a setback, but I'm sure there will be at least one more twist in the title race.It's going to be a bit of a footy fest in the coming week, Chelsea v Toon, play-offs, FA Cup Final, the big Sunday games, and then part 2 of play-offs...enjoy the ride Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/451/#findComment-541430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluerevolution Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 I never felt more like singing the blues when City win and utd loose, oh City you got me singing the blues ! My throat and head are killing ! Our pub was packed to the rafters with Blues !Me and RD last night ! ;-) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/451/#findComment-541439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Well done BR ! Its your to lose now. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/451/#findComment-541461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodrot Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 I dunno what to think on this - MU have grown on me as a well structured, well managed team, albeit with a rather high wanker quotient as both fans and players. MC are shouty new money tosspots who do play good football, but are inevitably doomed to implode when their banker departs.Neither of which invoke much empathy in me , but spose MU have a narrow lead.As long as the racists of Chelsea and Liverpool trail in their wake however, I am content. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/451/#findComment-541467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Yeah, cos everyone at Chelsea and Liverpool is a racist. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/451/#findComment-541478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluerevolution Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Red Devil and Laddy Muck, I know today is pretty miserable but help is at hand call 0800 1-6-1-6-1-6 or 0800 1-0-1-0-1-0 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/451/#findComment-541503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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