Country going to the dogs

[StraferJack]

some quotes from the media - but from when? scroll down to see the years in question

1) ? Parents at this time, unfortunately, do not take sufficient care in bringing up their children. They expect someone else to be responsible.?

2) ?The passing of parental authority, the absence of restraint, the wildness of extremes, the confusion of unrelated liberties, the wholesale drift away from churches?

3) ?a debate on a "disturbing increase in criminal offences", and speakers asserting that "our wives and mothers, if they are left alone in the house at night, are frightened to open their doors", and that "over the past 25 years we in this country, through misguided sentiment, have cast aside the word "discipline", and now we are suffering from it". Delegates fumed over the "leniency" of modern courts and the way that young people were "no longer frightened of the police".?

From a great article in The Economist

here

1) 1951

2) 1932

3) 1958

[mockney piers]

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for

authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place

of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their

households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They

contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties

at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

400 BC ish - Socrates.

[mockney piers]

"I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on

frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond

words... When I was young, we were taught to be discreet and

respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise

[disrespectful] and impatient of restraint"

700 ish BC - Hesiod

[mockney piers]

"The world is passing through troublous times. The young people of

today think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence for

parents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint. They talk as

if they knew everything, and what passes for wisdom with us is

foolishness with them. As for the girls, they are forward, immodest

and unladylike in speech, behavior and dress."

1274 - Peter the Hermit

[Ted Max]

"Enough already"

2011 - Ted Max

[karter]

Ted Max Wrote:

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> "Enough already"

>

> 2011 - Ted Max

LOLOL great.

TM should be the PM.

[Laddy Muck]

"Country going to the dogs"

Just wondering what Woof's, Legalbeagle's and Artfuldogger's response(s) to that might be.

(*inserts cheeky-looking-yellow-wotsit*).

[Ted Max]

Very good article, SJ. Thanks for linking. Some amazing quotes in there in the Pearson source material the writer uses.

[StraferJack]

scathing, Ted. Scathing

[Ridgley]

?If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and, though they discipline him, will not listen to them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, and they shall say to the elders of his city, ?This our son is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.? Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones. So you shall purge the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

Deuteronomy 21:18-21 ESV / 22

[StraferJack]

oh my days - I think the point of me starting the thread has been lost

And ridgeley - you do know that quoting from the bible opens up all sorts of problems don't you? Especially books like Deuteronomy

[richardbach]

then romuns wer always riting bakc to there famly an bleeting ab out how teh brits were oafish drunks whoo spend theit ime being awkwrd an loking for argumentsn and genraly being disrespecful towerds roman aothurity nohting changes lol

[Otta]

I took it as a bit of a joke.

[richardbach]

i teink many of teh roiters wer stoned wen they wer loting and fihgting the police exept if was teh chrionic that they wer stoned on and not stoned with briks an roks lol

[Ridgley]

SJ wrote

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oh my days - I think the point of me starting the thread has been lost

And ridgeley - you do know that quoting from the bible opens up all sorts of problems don't you? Especially books like Deuteronomy

SJ that was not my intention I was just looking at all the quotes from thread like Socrates the Bible is just as old and it has some interesting points too this is not some Bible thumping excise:)

[HonaloochieB]

OH MY DAYS???!!!

[Ted Max]

STARKEY!

[DJKillaQueen]

Great OP.....shows just how relative everything is.

[HonaloochieB]

#I don't know what's wrong with these kids today!

Kids!

Who can understand anything they say?

Kids!

They are disobedient, disrespectful oafs!

Noisy, crazy, dirty, lazy, loafers!

While we're on the subject:

Kids!

You can talk and talk till your face is blue!

Kids!

But they still just do what they want to do!

Why can't they be like we were,

Perfect in every way?

What's the matter with kids today?

Kids!

I've tried to raise him the best I could

Kids! Kids!

Laughing, singing, dancing, grinning, morons!

And while we're on the subject!

Kids! They are just impossible to control!

Kids! With their awful clothes and their rock an' roll!

Why can't they dance like we did

What's wrong with Sammy Kaye?

What's the matter with kids today!#

[StraferJack]

well I wanted to avoid the usual religious versions so as to keep ridgely on board

[RosieH]

Ridgley Wrote:

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he is a

> glutton and a drunkard.? Then all the men of the

> city shall stone him to death with stones.

Sheee-it. I'm done for.

I like the tautology though. That should be a book of the OT. Tauterology - each pleonasm more brutal and bloodthirsty than the last.

[Ridgley]

You guys crack me up:)

[HonaloochieB]

In the biblical sense?

[Ridgley]

?That it I have open up a can of worms? I am going to get bible jokes or hammed for this:)

[mockney piers]

Was that Deuteronomy? I could have sworn that came straight out the book of Kelvinmckenzie