Steve32 threats

[rendelharris]

Just going to put this out there - is anyone else uneasy about Steve32 being allowed to keep putting out his "call for witnesses" on the ED thread, and particularly about the fact that the thread is locked so nobody else can comment? His case seems entirely baseless, and he has ludicrously repeatedly threatened myself and several other people via PM with legal action and being reported to the police for challenging his account of events. One does not feel this is a good precedent.

[tomskip]

Well he's annoying but until he does actually report you to the police or start legal proceedings, it's probably best to ignore? The locking of the thread says a lot.

[rendelharris]

tomskip Wrote:

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> Well he's annoying but until he does actually

> report you to the police or start legal

> proceedings, it's probably best to ignore? The

> locking of the thread says a lot.

Quite right in a way Tom, but having been on the end of many insane PMs (10+) from this character, who as far as I can see has no justification for any of his accusations, I think it's poor for admin to allow him to continue his bizarre feud, and particularly to allow him to have a locked-off thread so he can't be challenged.

[nxjen]

He is annoying but he now seems to have a police incident number and an IPCC number which I think is issued by the Police Complaints department so, make of this what you will, it is no longer a matter of a private prosecution. I would also like to see matters like this, even if without foundation, continue to be dealt with by the official bodies rather than a trial by internet. As Admin says in a note to the latest post, this is a legitimate request, which as it is locked, will soon be buried.

[rendelharris]

nxjen Wrote:

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> He is annoying but he now seems to have a police

> incident number and an IPCC number which I think

> is issued by the Police Complaints department so,

> make of this what you will, it is no longer a

> matter of a private prosecution. I would also like

> to see matters like this, even if without

> foundation, continue to be dealt with by the

> official bodies rather than a trial by internet.

> As Admin says in a note to the latest post, this

> is a legitimate request, which as it is locked,

> will soon be buried.

Where's the note from Admin? I can't see it. Yes this person has got a police incident number - that doesn't actually indicate any validity, if one reports an incident to the police they automatically generate an incident number, it doesn't validate any claim.

[Sue]

It's at the top of the only post in the thread.

[nxjen]

?I can't see it. Yes this person has got a police incident number - that doesn't actually indicate any validity, if one reports an incident to the police they automatically generate an incident number, it doesn't validate any claim.?

No of course not, the police will investigate and decide whether the matter should be taken further.

[siousxiesue]

Depending on the type of threat Rendel you could even go to the police about him

[JoeLeg]

Ignore it Rendel. Admin?s done the right thing; the thread is locked and so will quietly slip away.

Steve seems to have issues. He?s best left alone with his internal monologues.

[Robert Poste's Child]

I think the police might feel Steve's continuing posts are tending to undermine his case.

The oddest factor in this story is the aggressive dog - a cocker spaniel. Possible, I suppose, but they're usually total softies so I can only assume this one thought its owner was being attacked.

[peckham_ryu]

rendelharris Wrote:

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> Just going to put this out there - is anyone else

> uneasy about Steve32 being allowed to keep putting

> out his "call for witnesses" on the ED thread,

Speaking for myself, no. Some people have never heard the maxim ?Better to be silent and thought s fool??, and lo they are right here to give us something to read.

The PM?s may be another matter. I don?t know if you can ?block? members from messaging you on this site? I have yet to receive an abusive PM myself; with the benefit of no experience, I suppose the most satisfying course of action would be to ostentatiously ignore them. Don?t take loony rantings to heart.

[Blah Blah]

Not again!

[Blah Blah]

Robert Poste's Child Wrote:

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> I think the police might feel Steve's continuing

> posts are tending to undermine his case.

>

> The oddest factor in this story is the aggressive

> dog - a cocker spaniel. Possible, I suppose, but

> they're usually total softies so I can only assume

> this one thought its owner was being attacked.

For some reason he thinks this dog is a dangerous dog. The dog was barking at him and bothering him, but it did not bite him or anything like that. Yet he insists he was attacked by it, and when the owner did what any responsible owner would do, and put it on its lead, some words were exchanged in which he asked to take her picture so that he could report her and her dog to the Police. And it just becomes more bizarre from there.

Everything about this guys story is odd. And when she said no to the photo and walked off, he followed her and filmed her anyway. When she said she would call her husband if he did not sod off, he continued. He is a quite clearly a narcissistic bully. And no doubt he'll be sending out yet more private messages tomorrow threatening legal action - this from a guy who has taken no legal advice whatsoever as yet.

This guy went to the IPCC because the Police won't take his case any further. It is quite clear there is no criminal case to answer. He is nuts.

[rendelharris]

Sue Wrote:

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> It's at the top of the only post in the thread.

Thanks Sue, it wasn't there originally and I was looking at an unrefreshed version. Can't really agree that this is a "legitimate request" - he's been allowed to make this request twice already (wonder where his witnesses are?), to my eyes it looks like a further attempt at public intimidation.

[rendelharris]

Robert Poste's Child Wrote:

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> I think the police might feel Steve's continuing

> posts are tending to undermine his case.

>

> The oddest factor in this story is the aggressive

> dog - a cocker spaniel. Possible, I suppose, but

> they're usually total softies so I can only assume

> this one thought its owner was being attacked.

In a PM I was told that the dog did "attack" him but the police said they wouldn't do anything about it as it didn't bite. How precisely a cocker spaniel attacks one without biting I have yet to ascertain.

[Robert Poste's Child]

It's always possible, of course, but when I think of spaniels in my family what they might do is run towards someone they perceive to be threatening their owner and bark a bit. Their MO is seek and find: attacking and protecting just aren't what they're bred to do. You never see a thug or dealer walking around with a spaniel!

[Robert Poste's Child]

That said, I think we can all hear that Steve32 feels he was attacked, and unfortunately all the ridicule and argument will probably increase that.

[JohnL]

rendelharris Wrote:

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> Robert Poste's Child Wrote:

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> > I think the police might feel Steve's

> continuing

> > posts are tending to undermine his case.

> >

> > The oddest factor in this story is the

> aggressive

> > dog - a cocker spaniel. Possible, I suppose,

> but

> > they're usually total softies so I can only

> assume

> > this one thought its owner was being attacked.

>

> In a PM I was told that the dog did "attack" him

> but the police said they wouldn't do anything

> about it as it didn't bite. How precisely a cocker

> spaniel attacks one without biting I have yet to

> ascertain.

My mother had a cocker spaniel - it was a big baby. Very energetic and lively though.

[Robert Poste's Child]

They can be bouncy. If you were afraid of dogs, maybe that might feel like being attacked, even if to an observer it's not what's happening.

[edcam]

Admin have no way of knowing whether this is legit or not. Personally, I think they've done the right thing by locking the thread. If his claim is legit and there are witnesses they have the contact info. If it isn't, nobody will come forward.

There was nothing more to be achieved by allowing a free for all on this subject. Best to let it go away.

[ianr]

Just let him be and stop the righteous kicking. I seriously doubt anyone feels truly threatened by him.

[rendelharris]

edcam Wrote:

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> Admin have no way of knowing whether this is legit

> or not. Personally, I think they've done the

> right thing by locking the thread. If his claim

> is legit and there are witnesses they have the

> contact info. If it isn't, nobody will come

> forward.

>

> There was nothing more to be achieved by allowing

> a free for all on this subject. Best to let it go

> away.

That's precisely what concerns me edcam, that it's not going away; this is the third time he's put a thread up on the same subject. Surely any witnesses would have come forward by now? One suspects ulterior motives.

[nxjen]

It?s ironic that by starting this thread you?re prolonging it yourself. Perhaps I lack imagination but I can?t think of any ulterior motive. Let it go Rendel, Admin has spoken and you?re becoming obsessive.

[diable rouge]

nxjen Wrote:

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> Let it go Rendel, Admin has spoken and you?re becoming

> obsessive.

Have to agree rendel, you're coming across as being just as obsessive as this steve32 character.

As this is now an officially logged complaint, I think the best thing for those that have received PMs from steve32 of a threatening nature, or they feel there is some evidence that the police should know about, is to forward them on to the police via the link on the thread. If PMs have been deleted then submit a written statement which you would be wiling to testify on. I'm sure the police and the person(s) that steve32 is making accusations against will be extremely grateful...

[Blah Blah]

The problem though is that there is another person involved. The poor woman who has to put up with the relentless effort by Steve32 to criminalise her and her husband. The Police have already taken their view, that there is no case to answer. When does it end for this woman and her husband? She might want to start thinking about pursuing a restraining order to be honest.