Dulwich Hi-Fi Station / Car Forecourt

[captain_paxo]

Has anyone ever purchased anything from this shop? I notice they now sell cars (on the pavement). All rather strange...

[benjaminty]

is it for sale? thought it was just the owner showing off how well he's doing nowadays .... K Reg vitara yesterday right? oh how the other half live. agreed - very odd! :))

[Domitianus]

I am curious to know what the status is of this little forecourt area they have roped off. Do they own it? Have they the legal right to do so? Anyone know?

[macroban]

Yes, it's their part of the pavement.

I believe they could have built a two metre high brick wall without planning permission.

Lordship Lane would be interesting if all the shops reclaimed their parts of the pavements.

[kford]

Saw that tonight. It's their land, like the concrete bit in front of the Co-op block and the sit down bit in front of the Dulwich cafe by shoe shop.

[lpool]

I could be wrong but from memory of my own experience of parking my motorbike many years ago it commits some form of highway offence as the vehicle had to travel across the pavement to the designated area. So unless it was parachuted in an astute police officer could probably book it.

[Brendan]

What if you actually had it in the shop then? Would that still be an offence because it had to travel over the pavement to get there?

[macroban]

Goodbye dropped kerbs and front garden parking then.

[blinder999]

isn't the absence of a dropped kerb the problem?

[macroban]

The alleged offence is driving across the pavement to access private property.

[blinder999]

macroban Wrote:

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> The alleged offence is driving across the pavement

> to access private property.

...where there is no dropped kerb:

from http://www.direct.gov.uk/

"It is illegal to build a crossing over a public footpath without a certified crossing or dropped kerb. This is to ensure that the crossing is strong enough to take the weight of the vehicle and does not create a hazard for pedestrians and other footpath and road users. "

[kford]

There's a dropped kerb at the end of the pavement, by the EDT. Is there a set distance? If not, there's nothing stopping you wheeling a bike across.

[Gerrard]

The only time I went into the place was to purchase some speaker cable. They told me that they dont sell it and bustled me out of the door, which I thought was odd, as it appears to be a shop for hi-fi's and stereo equipement...

[*Bob*]

The 'car issue' seems to be ongoing.

On two occasions, I've seen a local PC having a friendly chat with the owner about it.

[lozzyloz]

Same experience as you Gerrard. On the two occasions I've gone in there to enquire about specific models per the branded neon in the window, they've looked at me as though I'd gone in and asked for a packet of Fruit Gums. Weird set up.

[monica]

Iv past a few times and the parking attendants are always having a good old amicable chat with the owner,a friend bought a tv once and she said they were very helpful,still very bizarre

[Oily Telly Tyke]

Saw a car for sale there being lifted onto/or off the space by lorry with a hydraulic arm. I assumed it was being towed away for being there illegally but obviously not.

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[capt_birdseye]

I saw them having a heated argument with officers of the law a few weeks ago and they were angrily jesticulating at the car.

[Rarm Strarm]

I've been into the shop a few times and have generally had good experiences. They've been around for ages. I first bought a mini disc player about 7 years ago and bought headphones, speaker cables and empty CDs.

They seem to stock more pricey items now. Surprised they didn't sell speaker cable to some customers as they certainly did some time ago.

Regarding the cars, that's news to me. Do they have any good deals? :-)

[macroban]

The new neon sign says cars from ?595.

[*Bob*]

I don't know what's going on. But I'll take a guess.

The guy's owned the shop for years. Maybe he owns the property. One day, his mate says "'ere, Tone.. do us a favour and stick my old car outside your shop.. I want to get shot of it". The car goes outside the shop.

Meanwhile, Sebastian Media has just bought a plush 4-bedder on Friern. He invites his Islington pals down to wow them with the delights of Moo 2 blah blah.. only to turn the corner and see a crumbling Almera plonked on the pavement with ?599! stuck on the front, hand-written in a black marker pen. He's not happy.. his pals laugh.. he looks like a right plum.

The complaints begin to roll-in, but Hi-Fi man is undeterred. He digs his heels in and finds-out what his rights are. They include roping-off a section of the shop forecourt using bits and pieces found in a skip - guaranteed to annoy the complainers even more. Bring it on.

I love the fact that there's now a large neon sign in the window saying "CARS FROM ?499" or something like that. I'm sure it wasn't there before. Hat's off to him.. It makes me laugh every time I walk past.

[Domitianus]

Are you one of those neon-sign laughers then?

[Frisco]

Getting the car from the road to the area in front of their shop would be an offence, and they certainly wouldn't be able legally to use the dropped kerb outside EDT (at the crossing) for that purpose, as this would require them to drive along the pavement to get the vehicle to their property.

I always thought that a licence was required to sell secondhand cars, particularly from retail premises. Surely it's also a change of use. If so, it makes Cafe Nero's planning infringement seem quite minor.

[*Bob*]

There's a shop forecourt on Forest Hill Road which always seems to be chock full of old bangers for sale.

But then it's on Forest Hill Road so who gives a shit.

[macroban]

> Getting the car from the road to the area in front of their shop would be an offence

I have read this assertion many times, but have never been able to identify the specific legislation.

Can anyone help?