Jamie Smalinsky barbers FH Road

[malumbu]

Has he closed permanently? News please!

[mac4]

I certainly hope not but, looking inside, the sofa and chairs have all been removed and it looks cleaned out. I hope its not connectd with the very unpleasent incident he suffered a few weeks ago. He was attacked outside on the pavement by a man with a hammer and knocked unconcious. Police attended and arrested the perpetrator and an ambulance took the barber to hospital. He was back at work after that seemingly ok but it was obviously a shocking experience. I hope he has not suffered further.

[JoeLeg]

Oh that's awful! I usually get my hair cut by Jaime, haven't been for a couple of months but was planning on going soon.

To be honest I'm not surprised if he's gone - he was saying that there's more competition in the area, and rents are an issue (like everywhere around here). I can imagine his bottom line was getting pretty squeezed. If he's decided to pull stumps I kind of hope it was a business decision and not the result of something more sinister, though it's a loss of another 'traditional' business.

Ah well, the inevitable march of change...

[ontheRye]

Unfortunately, Jamie has thrown the towel in after the incident mac4 mentions above, which was the culmination of a period of harrassment by the perpetrator whose hair Jamie had cut but wasn't happy with it

During my last hair cut in mid Dec, he said that he no longer felt safe working on his own; ever increasing rents etc, didn't help either

It's a real shame as he had been there for many years and will be missed

[Sue]

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> Unfortunately, Jamie has thrown the towel in after

> the incident mac4 mentions above, which was the

> culmination of a period of harrassment by the

> perpetrator whose hair Jamie had cut but wasn't

> happy with it

This person must surely have been mentally ill?

[malumbu]

Thanks for letting me know, that is a shame.

[Nigello]

I feel very sorry for the barber, whose shop I have been to lots of times and where I always had a good cut and pleasant chat. And yes, "trendy" barbers are on the up - for now.

[Milhouse]

I was having a chat to him a few weeks ago when I was getting my hair cut. Seems it's an issue of rising rents.

He's planning to do mobile hairdressing (home visits) in the East Dulwich area. He gave me one of his cards which I'll try to dig out.

[Rosetta]

I noticed two old fashioned barbers up at Brockley Rise, SE23 when I was there last week.

[Brian up the hill]

I can confirm that it was the rent increase courtesy of the landlord that persuaded Jamie to pack up and close. This is what he told me. He is offering home cuts but will be coming up from the Kent coast so I presume he will do this in batches once he has enough to justify the trip. If I'm allowed to give out his number, it is 07973 469631

[Robert Poste's Child]

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> This person must surely have been mentally ill?

Why do you feel the need to say this? It's a horrible thing to have happened to Jamie whatever was going on with the perpetrator.

[Sue]

Robert Poste's Child Wrote:

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> Why do you feel the need to say this? It's a

> horrible thing to have happened to Jamie whatever

> was going on with the perpetrator.

Yes, of course it was a horrible thing to have happened.

What in my post made you think I have anything but sympathy for the victim?

ETA: A post above says the hammer attack "was the culmination of a period of harrassment by the perpetrator whose hair Jamie had cut but wasn't happy with it".

My point was that that was not normal behaviour and therefore there may have been a reason for the attack other than pure malice and aggression. I'm sorry if I didn't express it very well, but I don't think it is irrelevant to the thread.

[Mick Mac]

Sue Wrote:

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> This person must surely have been mentally ill?

i agree, there has to be something seriously wrong for a reaction like that, to a haircut.

[Robert Poste's Child]

Sue Wrote:

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> > > This person must surely have been mentally

> ill?

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> > Why do you feel the need to say this? It's a

> > horrible thing to have happened to Jamie

> whatever

> > was going on with the perpetrator.

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>

> Yes, of course it was a horrible thing to have

> happened.

>

> What in my post made you think I have anything but

> sympathy for the victim?

>

> ETA: A post above says the hammer attack "was the

> culmination of a period of harrassment by the

> perpetrator whose hair Jamie had cut but wasn't

> happy with it".

>

> My point was that that was not normal behaviour

> and therefore there may have been a reason for the

> attack other than pure malice and aggression. I'm

> sorry if I didn't express it very well, but I

> don't think it is irrelevant to the thread.

I really dislike the casual labelling of mental illness many people still go in for whenever someone does something they don't consider acceptable behaviour - it doesn't help the situation and just makes anyone who does have mental health problems feel even more stigmatised. I'm sure we've had this conversation before, though, and I saw someone else made a similar point on a different thread the same day.

[yeknomyeknom]

I agree.

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> > > Why do you feel the need to say this? It's a

> > > horrible thing to have happened to Jamie

> > whatever

> > > was going on with the perpetrator.

> >

> >

> > Yes, of course it was a horrible thing to have

> > happened.

> >

> > What in my post made you think I have anything

> but

> > sympathy for the victim?

> >

> > ETA: A post above says the hammer attack "was

> the

> > culmination of a period of harrassment by the

> > perpetrator whose hair Jamie had cut but wasn't

> > happy with it".

> >

> > My point was that that was not normal behaviour

> > and therefore there may have been a reason for

> the

> > attack other than pure malice and aggression.

> I'm

> > sorry if I didn't express it very well, but I

> > don't think it is irrelevant to the thread.

>

> I really dislike the casual labelling of mental

> illness many people still go in for whenever

> someone does something they don't consider

> acceptable behaviour - it doesn't help the

> situation and just makes anyone who does have

> mental health problems feel even more stigmatised.

> I'm sure we've had this conversation before,

> though, and I saw someone else made a similar

> point on a different thread the same day.

[cella]

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> > ill?

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> > > Why do you feel the need to say this? It's a

> > > horrible thing to have happened to Jamie

> > whatever

> > > was going on with the perpetrator.

> >

> >

> > Yes, of course it was a horrible thing to have

> > happened.

> >

> > What in my post made you think I have anything

> but

> > sympathy for the victim?

> >

> > ETA: A post above says the hammer attack "was

> the

> > culmination of a period of harrassment by the

> > perpetrator whose hair Jamie had cut but wasn't

> > happy with it".

> >

> > My point was that that was not normal behaviour

> > and therefore there may have been a reason for

> the

> > attack other than pure malice and aggression.

> I'm

> > sorry if I didn't express it very well, but I

> > don't think it is irrelevant to the thread.

>

> I really dislike the casual labelling of mental

> illness many people still go in for whenever

> someone does something they don't consider

> acceptable behaviour - it doesn't help the

> situation and just makes anyone who does have

> mental health problems feel even more stigmatised.

> I'm sure we've had this conversation before,

> though, and I saw someone else made a similar

> point on a different thread the same day.

Agreed. I was trying to point this out to Edcam.

[Sue]

I am not sure why you call this "casual labelling".

Could you explain?

I don't think my post was in any way stigmatising people with mental health issues.

Several of my close relatives have been hospitalised for mental illness, including one who was sectioned several times.

I think there needs to be wider discussion and awareness, not getting uptight every time mental illness is mentioned.

[Robert Poste's Child]

Casual in that you weren't involved or present, you don't know the person you're describing and yet based on very little iinformation you're making a judgement on a local online forum.

Mental illness wasn't the topic under discussion. You introduced it as some kind of judgement. Having relatives with mental health problems doesn't make you an expert it seems.

[bigmacca1]

Blimey, This started out as an enquire about a local barber , Getting a bit off the subject don't you think ??

[rendelharris]

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> Blimey, This started out as an enquire about a

> local barber , Getting a bit off the subject don't

> you think ??

This your first time on t'internet mate?

[bigmacca1]

No

[Sue]

Robert Poste's Child Wrote:

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> Casual in that you weren't involved or present,

> you don't know the person you're describing and

> yet based on very little iinformation you're

> making a judgement on a local online forum.

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'Mental illness wasn't the topic under discussion. You introduced it as some kind of judgement. Having relatives with mental health problems doesn't make you an expert it seems.

ased on very little information?!"

Somebody has a haircut they aren't happy with, harasses the person who cut their hair and then attacks them with a hammer?

I wouldn't say that was "very little information".

ETA: And "some kind of judgement"?

How do you interpret what I said as a "judgement"?

ETA: And why do you suggest I think I'm an "expert"?

I gave some background to indicate (I thought) that I am sympathetic to and have experience of people who are mentally ill.

I really cannot understand why you are reacting to my post in this way.

From the information given on this thread, do you think the person who attacked the barber is completely well?