The shops in Nunhead are going to the wall

[LizzygotDizzy]

Sorry retracted, have just read thread properly, ::o

[LizzygotDizzy]

By the way, was nice to see the photos of the xmas do, nice to put faces to names, and quite cute ones too!!! Sorry, have I grovelled enough yet?

[atila the gooner]

Shops going to the wall is a sad fact of life. My father and I had a shop in Meeting House Lane in Peckham in the 70's and early 80's which was doing well until Sainsburys and Safeway came along and it all went tits up. I think unless people change their shopping habits, small businesses going to the wall will be an everyday occurence.

[AllforNun]

Lots of action thanks - why do you have a list or some point system, some people can not even get out of there houses or have mental health issues does that mean that if they do not physically participate they do not count ? Everyone does there own thing in there own way. This idea that if you go to a meeting you own it and everything to do with it is a very middle class concept? There are thousands of people dong things everyday, to picking up litter or talking to kids about their attitude, it is all relevant.

And as for house prices in ED are worth more thats a joke. Dulwich village has gone up ED has gone up and Nunhead has gone up it's all relative.

And the private sector has done what to ED ? Er what Jo Jo maman Bebe, Foxtons the White Stuff or Northcross Road - which incidently is where the real change in ED began - A small parade of eclectic shops, now a weekend market street.

[Mark]

AllforNun, what action have you taken to help the area? And what further action do you intend to take to help the area?

[Keef]

I do have to agree that the council could spend their time and money on a lot of things other than the bloody fence at Goose Green.

[Mark]

Keef Wrote:

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> I do have to agree that the council could spend

> their time and money on a lot of things other than

> the bloody fence at Goose Green.

Such as what to improve Nunhead and its shops?

[Keef]

It' not for a council to improve shops, but I'd say Nunhead Lane and the little Green there are more in need of attention than Goose Green which has been done up not too long ago.

There are many many parts of Southwark more in need of a facelift than anywhere in ED.

[*Bob*]

The more I hear about this Nun Head place, the more confused I am.

An affordable, pleasant and on-the-up place to live?

A desolate, tumbleweed-strewn and forgotten backwater?

Which is it?

[Keef]

It's both Bob, therin lies the paradox.

[*Bob*]

The Nunhead Paradox

Starring: Harrison Ford, Wesley Snipes, Meryl Streep and Minnie Driver. And, er, Ernest Borgnine.

[AllforNun]

Thanks for the support Keef. I am glad you put it so simply.

[Mark]

I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just trying to find out what Nunhead needs and what action should be taken but it seems to be an ignored question. According to the gospel that is Wikipedia: "This neighbourhood presents an outward picture of calm, tree-lined streets, and has not been in the headlines as an area of concern" but AllforNun give the impression that its an inwardly collapsing shithole, how can that be stopped?

Mind you it does have a pub called the Pyrotechnist's Arms and the Nun's Head so it does sound like the scene of fatal accident.

[AllforNun]

Thanks for the support Keef - it's a simple point really !

[AllforNun]

It's called the Pyrotechnicists Arms because it stands where an old Firework factory used to be. And there was a nunnery where the Old Nuns Head now stands.

And I do not suggest it is an inwardly collapsing shithole, that?s out of order.

It's doing ok - we have some new businesses, the new frog on the green deli, the restaurant, and the little butchers has changed hands and the guy is trying really hard. It would be nice if the council weighed in with a clear plan/vision and some kind of financial incentives

The regeneration team were supposed to move from Bellendon to Nunhead years ago so what has happened? And now we are in a period of consumer uncertainity the lane has been left out cold in the coming storm. They could also offer some oportunites to new busnesses and see who knocks on the door. Maybe even advertise the area to people who want to start something but are being outpriced in ED.

[Mark]

AllforNun Wrote:

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> And I do not suggest it is an inwardly collapsing

> shithole, that?s out of order.

I apologise, it's just that you frequently mention about how Nunhead's been forgotten and ignored by councillors and you make it sound all doom and gloomy over there.

[lozzyloz]

AFN Do you really want Nunhead to be another Bellenden/ED. It already has its own unique character, some good housing stock, a several good shops, pubs, cafes, village green and superb cemetery. Do you really want it to become "poncified" with expensive shops full of tat, endless organic baby shops, gastropubs on every corner, residents priced out of their homes and woe betide a Foxtons! Take Alans example and be proud of what you've got.

[AllforNun]

Thanks mark _ it's not doom and gloom , but is has been left out and promises have been broken.

And no loozyloz we do not want it to be anything other than Nunhead with it's own unique character. ED has retained character throughout the regeneration of the last 8 years and has more than enough spirit to fight of harmoginisation.

It's not about gentrification/poncification, house prices have long since gone from 155000 to 420000+ for a terrace so things have already moved but there is a mix of housing stock anyway.

There is a local business forum being set up and it is working hard, so things are moving but they need some support as well. There are a number of empty shops at the moment and lots of developers are circling, we do not want a high street full of flats, 2 shops already have nice double glazed flat doors, very sad and signed of by local council. Once it starts all the interesting businessess will fold.

[lozzyloz]

Why not start a Nunhead Forum like downsouth did for West Dulwich and see how your neighbours feel and perhaps garner their support for positive action if that's what they want. Lets face it, most of us on the EDF couldn't give a toss about Nunhead.

[Mark]

I give a toss about Nunhead, I think it was the bible that said "Everybody needs good neighbours ... because neighbours become good friends"

anyway, I'm working on http://www.nunheadforum.co.uk at the moment, a few technical problems but I'll let people know when it's ready

[AllforNun]

LozzyLozz we could not really give a toss about you over in ED to be honest although the high street, shops, traffic, schools, train and bus services and crime we do care about !

We also care about the Lib council spending all the money in ED to shore up their power base while the surrounding areas get left to their own under funded devices.

[Brendan]

Bloody liberals.

[AllforNun]

Bloody Romans

[lozzyloz]

Bloody Nunheadians!

I didn't say "I" didn't give a toss. I often buy fish at Sopers which I prefer to Moxons and sometimes pop into Ayres and amble around the cemetery. Haven't found much else of interest though and it's not easy to park which is probably why shops don't do that well.

[AllforNun]

I take it all back then !