jelly Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 I see this over and over. Conservatives are for limited government. Just because we say we don't want government doing things where government is inept, counterproductive, wasteful or whatever, does not mean that we should shut it down totally.Yes, we do need roads, bridges, power stations, motorways, jails, schools, the military, standard weights and measures, courts, etc etc. But not every aspect of the country's infrastructure needs to fall under the remit or stewardship of the government. The conservative view is that the government should be a useful servant of the people's needs. However, you give it too much money, power, authority it becomes the worst kind of master. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22622-what-makes-arguing-with-liberals-so-frustrating-d/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Would you please stop wasting my tax money and get back to work. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22622-what-makes-arguing-with-liberals-so-frustrating-d/#findComment-532665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 . Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22622-what-makes-arguing-with-liberals-so-frustrating-d/#findComment-532666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 *Accepts hookPlenty of proper liberals are wary of big centralised government and bureaucrcies and too much state authority. Plenty of liberals don't think much of socialism. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22622-what-makes-arguing-with-liberals-so-frustrating-d/#findComment-532677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelly Posted March 22, 2012 Author Share Posted March 22, 2012 But those black sheep among the left who don't think much of socialism (or haven't yet been assimilated) are far outweighed by their 'comrades' who subscribe to and espouse its destructive ideology. And I disagree, in that from my experience most "proper liberals" (whatever that entails) do lean towards a big, all-powerful centralised government. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22622-what-makes-arguing-with-liberals-so-frustrating-d/#findComment-532686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Is this where I say jelly is BBW? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22622-what-makes-arguing-with-liberals-so-frustrating-d/#findComment-532694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Even if it isn't. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22622-what-makes-arguing-with-liberals-so-frustrating-d/#findComment-532695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 I am almost certain that "jelly" is a troll of some kind. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22622-what-makes-arguing-with-liberals-so-frustrating-d/#findComment-532697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxi Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Jeremy Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I am almost certain that "jelly" is a troll of> some kind.A Trolley? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22622-what-makes-arguing-with-liberals-so-frustrating-d/#findComment-532705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelly Posted March 22, 2012 Author Share Posted March 22, 2012 Then you'd be wrong. Unless your definition of a troll is someone who can't get their head 'round the tried and failed ideology liberals shove in everyone's faces. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22622-what-makes-arguing-with-liberals-so-frustrating-d/#findComment-532706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 So anyway, which political party are supposed to be liberal these days? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22622-what-makes-arguing-with-liberals-so-frustrating-d/#findComment-532709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
taper Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 JellyDefine your terms. Yours is an American misuse of the term 'liberal.' I fear you have tried and failed. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22622-what-makes-arguing-with-liberals-so-frustrating-d/#findComment-532710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodrot Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 is it worth replying to this blates trollfest bludz ? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22622-what-makes-arguing-with-liberals-so-frustrating-d/#findComment-532778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 jelly Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> But those black sheep among the left who don't think much of socialism (or haven't yet been> assimilated) are far outweighed by their 'comrades' who subscribe to and espouse its> destructive ideology. And I disagree, in that from my experience most "proper liberals" (whatever> that entails) do lean towards a big, all-powerful centralised government.Liberals are not necessarily lefties. Liberals don't believe in big government. I'd suggest you get a better understanding of Liberalism before trying to start such a debate. At the moment it's all a bit silly. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22622-what-makes-arguing-with-liberals-so-frustrating-d/#findComment-532786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Pibe Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I'm just waiting for the use of 'libtards'.Is this where i say "jelly is Rick Channing" even if it isn't. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22622-what-makes-arguing-with-liberals-so-frustrating-d/#findComment-532792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodrot Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 if the "liberals " like socialism so much, then why dont they go and live in North Korea? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22622-what-makes-arguing-with-liberals-so-frustrating-d/#findComment-532953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 If Liberals like liberalism so much, then why don't they go live in Liberia? Eh? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22622-what-makes-arguing-with-liberals-so-frustrating-d/#findComment-532954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annette Curtain Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 El Pibe Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I'm just waiting for the use of 'libtards'.> > Is this where i say "jelly is Rick Channing" even> if it isn't.Is this where i say "jelly is Tarot/Captain Scarlett" evenif it isn't. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22622-what-makes-arguing-with-liberals-so-frustrating-d/#findComment-533157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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