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Alan Dale Wrote:

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> Good point about babysitters.

>

> I think you have to have children before you can

> be 'child free' otherwise childless is more

> appropriate.

>

> Child free in the place of childless sounds like

> people are putting a positive spin on a bad

> situation.


No, Alan Dale, not at all and that was kind of my point.

Childless is only appropriate if you feel it's a loss.

If a couple have chosen not to have children it's their choice and doesn't require any positive spin, because it's not, for them, a bad situation.

Sorry to go on about it, I know it's not strictly on topic, but I don't see why you can't accept that some people choose not to have children.

Dulwich_ Park_ Fairy Wrote:

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> Pretty much hit the nail on the head there Asset, how many of the anti-family pub crowd would have dared to venture into the Plough or the Forresters before they were re-invented.


In the interests of fairness, The Goose & Granite (The Plough) had loads of kids in there, they were just a bit more chavy, but equally f**king annoying!


*Runs for the hills*


Seriously, I don't think there is an "anti family pub brigade", or maybe there is. I just think most people think that if a kid is in the pub, the parents should take responsibility for it and not let it run wild. Is that unreasonable?


If the pub is actually running a baby session like the EDT and Plough have recently, then of course those who don't want to be around kids should use their heads and avoid those places, and don't really have the right to moan about kids being in there at those times.

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