Camberwell to get tube by 2010

[Alan Dale]

According to the SLP..

http://icsouthlondon.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0200southlondonheadlines/tm_headline=light-at-the-end-of-tunnel&method=full&objectid=20293083&siteid=50100-name_page.html

[mockney piers]

How is this news exactly? This has been public knowledge for ages. SLP showing its class again.

Still nice to know they're still aiming for 2010, I was beginning to have my doubts.

[Townleygreen]

I may be going blind, but I couldn't see any mention of Camberwell's tube in that article, Alan....

[mockney piers]

Denmark Hill.

[KalamityKel]

*gets the map out*

[Michael Palaeologus]

It would be a marvellous thing..but as deepest South East London is marked with "Here be dragons" on Transport planner's maps, I wont be putting money on it.

[Jeremy]

Axing the london bridge to victoria route will be a disaster. The proposed east london line may have double the frequency, but is a much less useful route.

[MelbourneGr]

I thought Camberwell already had an underground tunnel link and station...It's been closed for some time though.

[pk]

i think that the SLP's got their messages mixed

my understanding is that phase 1 will be complete in 2010 (in theory), but this isn't the phase that will come to denmark (which is phase 2 (timing to be confirmed so be prepared for a long wait))

[mockney piers]

When the missus worked for TfL about 3 years ago it was this route originally planned to go operational first as most of the track is pre-exisiting, but every time I look at the TfL site they seem to change their minds, so I genuinely haven't the foggiest where it all stands these days, hence my earlier pessimism.

[Michael Palaeologus]

What they seemed to be saying was that these phase 2 plans may be brought forward in an attempt to address the shortfall caused by the end the Loop route.

The ELLE south eastern arm should be straight forward in a practical sense in that it uses existing track and land, mostly. However it is south of the river and so not a priority.

As I understand it, transport planning gives priority to transport systems that link exisiting transport nodes (stations) - the more existing nodes linked the better. So, if you live is SE London and have fewer nodes to start with - you are b*ggered when competing with node rich North London.

When is the next election by the way?

[Mr Bojangles]

Isn't this project still unfunded? The chances of the funding being raised and line extended by 2010 seem v slim. Sounds like newspaper talk; there is nothing about this on any of the official websites

[mockney piers]

Again, it was considered funded back in 2004, but something changed...olympics perhaps? You're right according to the TfL site it's still unfunded. Basically there's been so much mis and disinformation over the years noone knows where it stands.

I can as Mrs Mockney to put her ear to the ground for the gen if you like.

[philiphenslowe]

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/ell-route-map.pdf

I believe this is the planned extension of the East London line by 2010 and then it will link up with London Overground at Clapham Junction and Highbury & Islington to create an orbital London network.

[PeckhamRose]

Can't you fellow-tube-free lot over there in SE22 just be grateful for the nice walk from the station and the nice walk from the tram that Peckham's gonna get in... ohhhh about 2016? ;)

[Brendan]

This is all assuming WW3 doesn?t break out, all public funding is redirected to the military and the Olympics are cancelled.

[Frisco]

Who cares about Camberwell? I escaped from there 20 years ago.

[Alan Dale]

The Maudsley?

[MrBen]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Axing the london bridge to victoria route will be

> a disaster. The proposed east london line may have

> double the frequency, but is a much less useful

> route.

Unless you live in Honour Oak and want to visit your girlfriend in Canada Water!

[Frisco]

"The Maudsley?"

No Mr A D Close, I lived in a gentrified enclave off Camberwell New Road, and haven't ever been tempted to go back to live there, or even to make a nuisance of myself on the SE5 forum. In fact, I'd like to see a kind of Check-point Charlie at the top of Dog Kennel Hill - just to keep the ED house prices suitably inflated.

[????]

First time I heard this rumour was in 1985, days after moving to Camberwell........guess who you hear it from the most? Estate Agents....I am ready to be proved wrong but 22 years of this makes you think "WOLF, WOLF", rather a lot. Dream on Camberwellites

[Jeremy]

MrBen Wrote:

> Unless you live in Honour Oak and want to visit

> your girlfriend in Canada Water!

True. I usually drive to visit my girlfriend in Canada Water, current public transport tends to take around 3 times as long.

[mockney piers]

FT has its say

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f13b8e88-bcad-11dc-bcf9-0000779fd2ac.html?nclick_check=1

Nooo mention of our bit at all :(

[Mr Bojangles]

There is something at the end:

"A proposed ? but not so far approved ? spur from near Surrey Quays on to an existing route in south London would take East London trains to Clapham Junction, in south-west London, and complete a ring of such routes around the capital."

Not good news though

[Alan Dale]

Sounds good to me.

We'll be one stop from Clapham High Street.