Co-operative chicken

[the-e-dealer]

Pretending to use William Rose? How?

[maxxi]

the-e-dealer Wrote:

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> Pretending to use William Rose? How?

I'd guess spending half an hour in the queue, waving to ones friends and neighbours, then, just as you're about to cross the threshold, pretending to have forgotten something and saying "Oops!" and leaving. This tactic can backfire if one fails to notice there is no queue.

Rumour has it that ED's famous 'faux-proles' (see under 'Devil'-ish) adopt the same ploy outside the Post Office on a Thursday morning - pretending to be queuing to cash dole cheques.

[Michael Palaeologus]

Moist. Chicken not me.

[Gidget]

The Minkey Wrote:

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> I heart Peckham Morrisons ;-)

The Camberwell Morrison's bakery section is rather good. They had 4 large lovely square fruited scones (American style) made with clotted cream for only 80 pence. They were very soft and fresh. Also individual rhubarb pies with lattice tops for 59 pence or two for a ?1 I think it was. Very tasty.

[El Pibe]

actually maxxi, back in the pre-mobile-ubiquity age of 1995 my then editor was late to work because a chap had collapsed in front of him on the pavement.

He stopped to help the guy and a small crowd quickly gathered to gawp make sure he was ok too.

One of them talked loudly into a cell phone (as we then knew them, one of those rather unwieldy things) about what was going on.

When my editor turned to him and asked him politley to make rather better use of it and contact the emergency services he turned a special shade of crimson and had to admit that it was actually a fake!!

It happens, it really does.

[katesonic]

anyone care to comment on Peckham Lidl bread?

I've been trying to hold off posting here in case demand outstrips supply:)

[Undisputedtruth]

I bought a loaf in Lidl last week and it was rather good. Most things are good in Lidl apart from their fresh meats. However, Lidl are having a promotion called 'red tractor' on their meats so I'm trying to find out if this involves introducing new supplies. I'm also a fan of Aldi.

[Sue]

esme Wrote:

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> the chicken from Co-op

> is amazing, tastes so much better than anything I

> have tasted from other supermarkets or even the

> organic butcher

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Which chicken is this?

Because whenever I have looked for chicken in the Co-op, they just seem to have loads of factory farmed stuff, not even free range, let alone organic.

[Huggers]

lidl fresh bakery croissants and 'rustic' bread, fantastic and dead cheap.

[The Minkey]

The Co-op definitely do free-range chicken, whether LL Co-op stocks a good supply of it I don't know.

[Callie]

Sue Wrote:

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> esme Wrote:

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> > the chicken from Co-op

> > is amazing, tastes so much better than anything

> I

> > have tasted from other supermarkets or even the

> > organic butcher

>

> xxxxxxxx

>

> Which chicken is this?

>

> Because whenever I have looked for chicken in the

> Co-op, they just seem to have loads of factory

> farmed stuff, not even free range, let alone

> organic.

I think this might be the one with the Elmwood label on it. It is v nice, good quality but can be quite pricy. I usually buy it when they have it half price some days during the week, the pack of about 6 skinless breasts for ?3.50. I'm not a huge fan of co-op but this is the only chicken I trust to buy locally.

[Gidget]

From what I have read, the Co-op chicken isn't free range - allowed to roam outside - but the birds are in a barn and aren't caged. I guess that is considered to be ethical but it isn't my idea of a good life for a bird.

[woodrot]

No retailer is 100% ethical ( I truly hate the use of that word, as it has no quantifiable value ) but the Coop does try to get a balance as part of its USP, as opposed to the grimy scrabbling turds that are Tesco and Sainsburys. There has been talk of a people supermarket in threads of yore, but this is a pipe dream propogated by wealthy middle class proto hippies who can muse on such esoteric themes.

The Coop is the best of a bad bunch by far

[Gidget]

I would say that ethical would be farmers/producers that let their animals go outside at least part of the day. Some pigs are kept in cages all their sad lives.

[AbDabs]

Gidget Wrote:

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> From what I have read, the Co-op chicken isn't

> free range - allowed to roam outside - but the

> birds are in a barn and aren't caged. I guess

> that is considered to be ethical but it isn't my

> idea of a good life for a bird.

Chicken that is bred for meat is never kept in 'cages' as you can get far more chickens per square metre if they are held in large flocks in a 'barn'. Chickens only used to be kept in cages for egg laying as this allowed the most number of birds without damage occurring to the eggs. Unfortunately, the great British public has been encouraged to get confused about this.

'Barn' eggs mean the birds have a reasonable amount of space, but 'Barn' chickens grown for meat can have a pretty disgusting life.

If you can't afford free-range chicken (meat) then it's best to make sure there is an RSPCA freedom food label which does ensure they have a reasonable life.

Co-op does sell free-range but it also sells Freedom food and standard chickens (Standard is not a good word in the chicken industry). However, the co-op does (generally) have higher standards than other supermarkets, and may insist on lower densities for the barn bred birds.

[Gidget]

Like I said, I don't think Co-op sell free range birds. So which birds from the Co-op are free range? Freedom food = space to roam in a barn? And what is a reasonable life?

[Sue]

Callie Wrote:

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> Sue Wrote:

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> > esme Wrote:

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> > > the chicken from Co-op

> > > is amazing, tastes so much better than

> anything

> > I

> > > have tasted from other supermarkets or even

> the

> > > organic butcher

> >

> > xxxxxxxx

> >

> > Which chicken is this?

> >

> > Because whenever I have looked for chicken in

> the

> > Co-op, they just seem to have loads of factory

> > farmed stuff, not even free range, let alone

> > organic.

>

>

> I think this might be the one with the Elmwood

> label on it. It is v nice, good quality but can be

> quite pricy. I usually buy it when they have it

> half price some days during the week, the pack of

> about 6 skinless breasts for ?3.50. I'm not a huge

> fan of co-op but this is the only chicken I trust

> to buy locally.

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Sainsbury's at Dog Kennel Hill sell both free range and organic chicken, including pieces. Their free range stuff is reasonably priced.

I don't think Co-op's 6 skinless breasts for ?3.50 can possibly be free range in the sense that I understand it.

I personally would not knowingly buy chicken which was kept in a barn, whether they could roam about in it or not.

[DulwichFox]

Free range Chickens can be called so if they are kept in a barn But have access to the outside.

IE there is a door / opening ..

In practice, most chickens will remain inside and not venture outside.

Fox..

[LadyDeliah]

The co-op do have free range chickens, i've bought them before.

[maxxi]

The Co-op sells whole free-range chickens as well as packs of free-range thighs and drumsticks etc. they also sell RSPCA/Freedom Food Chickens and packs (cheaper) and standard chicken (cheaper still).

[Sue]

Is that the Co-op in Lordship Lane, maxxi?

[maxxi]

Yep

[MitchB]

Rye Lane - 20 wings in a carrier bag, ?1.90. Boom.