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I heard her being interviewed on Radio 4 a couple of years ago and aside from being a Dulwich gal, (by way of Trinidad & Tobagao) she's an extremely well-accomplished woman. Chairman of BAFTA, VP of the Royal Commonwealth Society and a Liberal Democrat Life Peer to name but a few (but I won't hold that against her!)


Not sure when Big Ted was a big sports name.

We won't object here in Catford if you want to join us on our turf to see it carried down Rushey Green. For us it'll bring back memories of last August, although this time people will be running away from the Catford Gyratory wearing trainers, rather than carrying armloads of them.

Mrs TP Wrote:

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> This one time us SE15ers are ahead of the game.

> July 26 flame is in Bellenden area.


I checked the official web site just now but the street level route still has not been posted for Southwark yet. The dotted line that sits over Peckham is just a random blob to indicate the borough isn't it? Is it posted somewhere else?

I'm finding the bbctorchcam strangely compulsive. There are a lot of very excited people out there - and seeing the enthusiasm of people for their local torch bearers and pride on the face of the torchbearers, is quite uplifting. There's so much negativity in the press about the Olympics that it's good to see some genuine excitement


Suspect it's a bit late though to start a campaign to get it to come through ED though - this time last year, possibly!

BrandNewGuy Wrote:

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> I couldn't give a monkey's where the damn thing

> goes and the BBC's "follow the torch with live

> text and video" thing is expensive, dull and

> pointless. Blow the bugger out, I say...

Oh Come now,

its a once in a lifetime experience, not quite like the jubilee, i have fond memorys of the last one (still got the mug!) but the flame!!!, although i think that the health and safety brigade have got their underwear in a twist what with a runner equiped with a fire extiguisher followin at a discreet distance behind is taking it a little far i fear, what would they have done during the blitz or a heaven17 gig!

It's defo close on 26 July. Go to this web address:


http://www.london2012.com/torch-relay/route/


Then click on search the map and enter your postcode.


The final routes for the last two dates have not been released but there is a rough overlay of approx where it will be.

BrandNewGuy Wrote:

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> Meh - OK lots of people find it exciting. Good for

> them. I can't think why...



I agree. I can't think of anything that I could possibly find less interesting than standing in the street to watch someone run past carrying a torch. I'm glad that it doesn't seem to be coming to close to East Dulwich - just imagine the traffic jams!

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