'Prince' Andrew

[carlafindle]

Does anyone have any views on Prince Andrew?

[sjsl]

Nope... although I think his claim to have misjudged the situation because of his "tendency to be too honourable" was itself rather misjudged. Still it's nice to have a distraction from all the other stuff going on...

[mrwb]

What is the story? He was friends with dodgy guy Epstein?

Any evidence he's done anything wrong? What is the problem exactly.

If there is deal with it via due process.

If not then not sure why anyone gives, total non story.

[Jules-and-Boo]

I think it's the fact he is digging bigger and bigger holes....

And the pizza thing, why on earth would you even think of that?

[pk]

At best, the man is very very stupid

[Captain Marvel]

He's a repellant, lying, sweaty shitbag but apart from that, I'm not sure what he's done wrong

[TheArtfulDogger]

I've been getting loads of "joke" images of him today, normally with Gary Glitter, Rolf Harris or Jimmy Saveil in them

Had to giggle at the one where he's in full dress uniform wearing a

"Jim fixed it for me" medal

[JohnL]

He shouldn't have said he doesn't regret his friendship with Epstein - that was silly to say.

But he told the Queen it all went really well (and was overheard telling her)

[peckham_ryu]

Trying to think of anything I would trust to that man. I wouldn?t even get him to hold my beer.

How he is/was a trade ambassador is a mystery. Why any charity has him as patron is a mystery. Why anyone invests in his hare-brained schemes is a mystery. Surely now people will see the emperor?s new clothes for what they aren?t?

[carlafindle]

peckham_ryu Wrote:

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> Trying to think of anything I would trust to that

> man. I wouldn?t even get him to hold my beer.

>

> How he is/was a trade ambassador is a mystery. Why

> any charity has him as patron is a mystery. Why

> anyone invests in his hare-brained schemes is a

> mystery. Surely now people will see the emperor?s

> new clothes for what they aren?t?

Apart from knocking around with a (ex) nonce

[DulwichFox]

Song for Prince Andrew

There I was, Digging a hole..

DulwichFox

[fishbiscuits]

Captain Marvel Wrote:

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> He's a repellant, lying, sweaty shitbag but apart

> from that, I'm not sure what he's done wrong

Isn't the allegation essentially "non-consensual sex"? I honestly don't know if he's guilty of that or not, but it certainly sounds "wrong".

[DulwichFox]

He's a Royal. He his 'Bombproof'.

This is Not the 17th Century.

[malumbu]

Quite an easy swap, he goes to the US to give evidence and in return Anne Sacoolas comes back to the UK to stand trial for manslaughter (US citizen who used diplomatic immunity to flee after she had hit and killed a motorcyclist, whilst she was driving on the wrong side of the road). I'm more bothered/shocked by the latter story.

[cella]

fishbiscuits Wrote:

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> Captain Marvel Wrote:

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> > He's a repellant, lying, sweaty shitbag but

> apart

> > from that, I'm not sure what he's done wrong

>

> Isn't the allegation essentially "non-consensual

> sex"? I honestly don't know if he's guilty of that

> or not, but it certainly sounds "wrong".

No, so much more obviously which is why is being stood down from all royal "duties". You would hope that he is also being removed from the Civil List as he shouldn't be paid.

[keano77]

There?s something dodgy about that photo that I can?t quite put my beetroot-stained paws on

[Seabag]

keano77 Wrote:

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> There?s something dodgy about that photo that I

> can?t quite put my beetroot-stained paws on

Maybe the hands around the waist of a 17 year old, maybe?

[Jules-and-Boo]

disgusting behaviour - lying and trying to hide behind his position to get away scot free.

[DulwichFox]

Reading between the Lines it would seem (to Me) that Prince Charles may well be

behind Prince Andrew's decision to step down from Royal Duties.

Charles's involvement would spare Her Majesty The Queen from stepping in.

DulwichFox

[BM13]

malumbu Wrote:

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> Quite an easy swap, he goes to the US to give

> evidence and in return Anne Sacoolas comes back to

> the UK to stand trial for manslaughter (US citizen

> who used diplomatic immunity to flee after she had

> hit and killed a motorcyclist, whilst she was

> driving on the wrong side of the road). I'm more

> bothered/shocked by the latter story.

I agree

[Loutwo]

BM13 Wrote:

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> malumbu Wrote:

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> > Quite an easy swap, he goes to the US to give

> > evidence and in return Anne Sacoolas comes back

> to

> > the UK to stand trial for manslaughter (US

> citizen

> > who used diplomatic immunity to flee after she

> had

> > hit and killed a motorcyclist, whilst she was

> > driving on the wrong side of the road). I'm

> more

> > bothered/shocked by the latter story.

>

> I agree

Totally agree with this.

Louisa.

[JohnL]

Seabag Wrote:

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> keano77 Wrote:

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> > There?s something dodgy about that photo that I

> > can?t quite put my beetroot-stained paws on

>

>

> Maybe the hands around the waist of a 17 year old,

> maybe?

Yet legally that's not a problem even if you're a teacher (as long as they aren't under your care)

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2019/nov/15/tribunal-awards-700k-to-headteacher-sacked-over-gay-dating-app-activity

[JohnL]

keano77 Wrote:

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> There?s something dodgy about that photo that I

> can?t quite put my beetroot-stained paws on

For me it's Ghislaine Maxwell

[fishbiscuits]

cella Wrote:

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> > Isn't the allegation essentially "non-consensual sex"?

> No, so much more obviously

What, specifically? That the Virginia Giuffre thing is just the tip of the iceberg, and that he was actually a part of a child sex ring?

[Seabag]

JohnL Wrote:

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> > > There?s something dodgy about that photo that

> I

> > > can?t quite put my beetroot-stained paws on

> >

> >

> > Maybe the hands around the waist of a 17 year

> old,

> > maybe?

>

> Yet legally that's not a problem even if you're a

> teacher (as long as they aren't under your care)

>

> https://www.theguardian.com/education/2019/nov/15/

> tribunal-awards-700k-to-headteacher-sacked-over-ga

> y-dating-app-activity

His defence of ?I don?t recall that photo being taken? is breathtaking. He then goes on to say ?yes that is me? or something to that effect. And whether the girl is in his care or not, she?s 17 years old.

I also agree Maxwell is as deeply in it as him.