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Trying to think of anything I would trust to that man. I wouldn?t even get him to hold my beer.


How he is/was a trade ambassador is a mystery. Why any charity has him as patron is a mystery. Why anyone invests in his hare-brained schemes is a mystery. Surely now people will see the emperor?s new clothes for what they aren?t?

peckham_ryu Wrote:

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> Trying to think of anything I would trust to that

> man. I wouldn?t even get him to hold my beer.

>

> How he is/was a trade ambassador is a mystery. Why

> any charity has him as patron is a mystery. Why

> anyone invests in his hare-brained schemes is a

> mystery. Surely now people will see the emperor?s

> new clothes for what they aren?t?


Apart from knocking around with a (ex) nonce

Captain Marvel Wrote:

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> He's a repellant, lying, sweaty shitbag but apart

> from that, I'm not sure what he's done wrong


Isn't the allegation essentially "non-consensual sex"? I honestly don't know if he's guilty of that or not, but it certainly sounds "wrong".

Quite an easy swap, he goes to the US to give evidence and in return Anne Sacoolas comes back to the UK to stand trial for manslaughter (US citizen who used diplomatic immunity to flee after she had hit and killed a motorcyclist, whilst she was driving on the wrong side of the road). I'm more bothered/shocked by the latter story.

fishbiscuits Wrote:

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> Captain Marvel Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > He's a repellant, lying, sweaty shitbag but

> apart

> > from that, I'm not sure what he's done wrong

>

> Isn't the allegation essentially "non-consensual

> sex"? I honestly don't know if he's guilty of that

> or not, but it certainly sounds "wrong".


No, so much more obviously which is why is being stood down from all royal "duties". You would hope that he is also being removed from the Civil List as he shouldn't be paid.

malumbu Wrote:

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> Quite an easy swap, he goes to the US to give

> evidence and in return Anne Sacoolas comes back to

> the UK to stand trial for manslaughter (US citizen

> who used diplomatic immunity to flee after she had

> hit and killed a motorcyclist, whilst she was

> driving on the wrong side of the road). I'm more

> bothered/shocked by the latter story.


I agree

BM13 Wrote:

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> malumbu Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Quite an easy swap, he goes to the US to give

> > evidence and in return Anne Sacoolas comes back

> to

> > the UK to stand trial for manslaughter (US

> citizen

> > who used diplomatic immunity to flee after she

> had

> > hit and killed a motorcyclist, whilst she was

> > driving on the wrong side of the road). I'm

> more

> > bothered/shocked by the latter story.

>

> I agree



Totally agree with this.


Louisa.

Seabag Wrote:

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> keano77 Wrote:

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> > There?s something dodgy about that photo that I

> > can?t quite put my beetroot-stained paws on

>

>

> Maybe the hands around the waist of a 17 year old,

> maybe?


Yet legally that's not a problem even if you're a teacher (as long as they aren't under your care)


https://www.theguardian.com/education/2019/nov/15/tribunal-awards-700k-to-headteacher-sacked-over-gay-dating-app-activity

cella Wrote:

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> > fishbiscuits Wrote:

> > --------------------------------------------------

> > Isn't the allegation essentially "non-consensual sex"?


> No, so much more obviously


What, specifically? That the Virginia Giuffre thing is just the tip of the iceberg, and that he was actually a part of a child sex ring?

JohnL Wrote:

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> Seabag Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > keano77 Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > There?s something dodgy about that photo that

> I

> > > can?t quite put my beetroot-stained paws on

> >

> >

> > Maybe the hands around the waist of a 17 year

> old,

> > maybe?

>

> Yet legally that's not a problem even if you're a

> teacher (as long as they aren't under your care)

>

> https://www.theguardian.com/education/2019/nov/15/

> tribunal-awards-700k-to-headteacher-sacked-over-ga

> y-dating-app-activity



His defence of ?I don?t recall that photo being taken? is breathtaking. He then goes on to say ?yes that is me? or something to that effect. And whether the girl is in his care or not, she?s 17 years old.


I also agree Maxwell is as deeply in it as him.

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