Support our own East Dulwich tree sellers

[christine56]

Feel sorry for people who live round the park.

But if nobody buys there trees maybe they won?t come back

Next year

[worldwiser]

Don't think it's fair to have a go at the operator. If they've come to an agreement with the council, it's the council who should have to answer for it. Does seem quite without precedent though and I am no more keen on it than any of you. There are so many places in the area already to get trees, I'm stunned Tree Amigos thought there'd be room in the market for such a large operation.

I'd love to know what the financial arrangements are but I imagine they'll hide behind 'commercial sensitivity.'

But I definitely think Southwark need to explain themselves. I don't want to see commercial activity on the green again save for the Dulwich Festival and similar.

[ed_pete]

Went to Morrisons in Peckham this morning. They have sizeable Christmas trees for ?15.

[tiddles]

once again a mention for the xmas tree sellers at the plough that donate to St Christophers Hospice.

I think we should boycott Tree Amigos personally plus have emailed the southwark email address with a request for an idea of the amount southwark are receiving for the loss of a public space.

[christine56]

Totally agree with that

[DulwichFox]

A Tree is for Life. Not just for Christmas..

[Coggers]

Our flat overlooks the greens and the generator used to power the lights can be heard clearly from inside our flat (from 3pm to 10pm yesterday)!! Surely we cannot be subject to this everyday for the next month? Were any residents consulted? I also totally agree with others re huge area of public space taken up and it being an absolute eyesore. I cannot see any benefit for the green to be used for this purpose, especially when so many local businesses provide trees already.

[christine56]

London?s going green and Southwark Council are

Allowing amigos trees use diesel generators

Night and day small area where our children

Play.also did they have to have the lights on

All night

[bels123]

Are they definitely diesel generators? If so I?m even more appalled at Southwark Council for allowing this, the same council that recently declared a climate emergency and paid for ivy green screening to help keep diesel fumes away from the children playing in the playground side of the park.

[Paradise2]

Southwark council parking wardens can give you a ticket for having your engine running for 5 mins while parked, so how can they allow these generators all day

[Blah Blah]

How about people stop buying real trees that are dumped as soon as xmas is over? Just more needless waste.

[Penguin68]

I believe (please correct me if I'm wrong) that the tree street traders have to buy a licence to trade; I assume that those around the north end of LL (i.e. near Goose Green) did so unaware that a very large and new competitor was being let in to the area - on a prime site - and although I am sure that these are paying a higher price, I wonder whether our traditional traders still see their licences as such value for money. Caveat emptor, of course, but I see local supply of trees as being of local benefit, and clearly competitive. But sometimes a large competitor can distort the market.

[mrwb]

Blah Blah Wrote:

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> How about people stop buying real trees that are

> dumped as soon as xmas is over? Just more needless

> waste.

Agree or get a real one with the roots and replant it somewhere after Christmas? If that's possible.

[dbboy]

You'll probably find that the vast majority of tree's are sourced from New Covent Garden Market unless the seller buys direct from a grower.

[Melihoople]

It's taking up a very large area on GG but along with the other points. I hope they are going Tu pay for the returfing as the ground will have been turned to mud as per what has happened when a similar enterprise set up in Brockwell park... So this lengthens the time is public land out of action

[Jules-and-Boo]

The park is pretty muddy already in places.

While I don't particularly care for them in terms of the occupation of public space for a business venture, it's a double standard when we buy our bread and veg in M&S, walking past our local grocers.

[goldilocks]

I think if your objection is to a 'non local tree seller' then it is - but the comments on this thread seem more focussed on the inappropriateness of using communal green space which should be available to the whole community for a commercial venture, and linked to this whether the site is powered by a constantly running diesel generator.

[MattyK]

Thankfully their generator stopped early today (Sunday) and the constant drone or thrum (depending on your ears) has discontinued.

A friend (used to be an East Dulwich resident) contacted me out of the blue after driving past "It looks like an alien spaceship has landed on Goose Green!)

After the discussion on this forum what is the best course of action to express our concerns?

1. Use of community facility for commercial enterprise.

- commercial damage to local traders

- no consultation

- exclusion of ordinary users from Green

- state of Goose Green afterwards

2. Nuisance to residents

- light pollution

- noise pollution

- parking issues

[goldilocks]

Charlie Smith - one of the Goose Green Councillors has responded on the local councillor thread that he'll look in to this - contacting local councilors to express concern would be a good step though.

[christine56]

I?ve emailed the councilors advertised on this forum about

This issue but no one has emailed back

I just want to know who gave these people permission

To set up in our community park

[sue k]

hopefully the good people of ED will not support them, and if really want to get a tree, buy from the ones raising money for the local charities, and they will just realise it's not financially viable and so not bother to return next year. ..

Better though If everyone donated the money spent on xmas trees that then get chucked outside after Christmas, to go to plant a tree that will live for years instead..that would be a good thing. https://www.woodlandtrust.org.uk/support-us/give/plant-100k/

I use twigs painted and decorate with lots of lovely things and a few sparkly lights...still looks festive!

[MattyK]

Goose Green Labour councillors: James McAsh, Victoria Olisa and Charlie Smith

[email protected], [email protected], [email protected]

[Jules-and-Boo]

Do people know why we have trees and wreaths at Christmas? Or do they just buy them?

I would suggest largely the latter.

[ken78]

well next year the local sellers should get together and make a bid to rent this site and sell their own goods

you just can't sit down in business you have to move with the times or things like this will happen

[dbboy]

"Advent and Christmas wreaths are constructed of evergreens to represent everlasting life brought through Jesus and the circular shape of the wreath represents God, with no beginning and no end. ... While Advent wreaths are erected on stands or placed on tables, Christmas wreaths are often hung on doors or walls" source: google

Christmas tree's - http://www.victoriana.com/christmas/tree-99.htm