random stuff

[StraferJack]

oops - there goes the day

http://labs.tineye.com/multicolr/#colors=55b4c7,a26095,e73843,205c31;weights=25,25,25,25;

[El Pibe]

Great bit of journalism on the realities and effects of immigrant london.

http://standpointmag.co.uk/node/5252/full

[steveo]

El Pibe Wrote:

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> Great bit of journalism on the realities and

> effects of immigrant london.

>

> http://standpointmag.co.uk/node/5252/full

Superb piece

I briefly lived in he shadow of the Beckton Alps. That's why I now live in Dulwich

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

What moved me most, was that I had no idea a service was held annually for those who died on the streets.

[El Pibe]

I had no idea so many died on the streets in such an inauspicious manner.

I liked how unjudgemental it was, just presentation of how it is....when you're obviously sharing a spliff/white ace/zywiec with your interviewees

[david_carnell]

Genuinely brilliant journalism. Fascinating stuff.

The hidden side of London - immigrants, cleaners, prostitutes, gangsters and drunks.

[maxxi]

http://twistedsifter.com/2012/09/split-face-portraits-of-family-members/

[El Pibe]

Walls.

Economic, political, sectarian, military

http://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2013/nov/walls

you can see some improving, some getting worse.

Given the way of things the damascene and brazilian models seem the most likely to proliferate

[El Pibe]

be afraid, be very afraid (well, until 1977)

http://gizmodo.com/for-20-years-the-nuclear-launch-code-at-us-minuteman-si-1473483587

[El Pibe]

nicely sums up the north east identity crisis

http://casa.oobrien.com/misc/londonlocal.jpg

[red devil]

Interesting piece on the 70's/80's skinhead* scene... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25142557

*In this case, Bonehead

[????]

I think there was an enormous difference between the original Skinhead scene late 60s/early 70s and the Oi driven late 70s NF skins. Musically and to a lesser degree politically. Also old school skinheads really dressed well and thought about it but the Oi lot were more uniformed - DMs/Harringtons etc

Intersetingly West Ham had loads of the Oi lot, not least the Rejects, but our 'lads'/firms never had an openly racist feel (not saying there weren't plenty of racists in them) in comparison to say Chelsea who were Combat 18. The Rejects weren't overtlt racists just white working class eastenders. I do remember the NF selling Bulldog outside the ground every week though until their stall got *accidentally* tipped over...nothing to do with Cass

[StraferJack]

I dunno. I knew Cass and she were a right wrong 'un

[david_carnell]

Choked on a ham sandwich didn't she?

[steveo]

That perfectly encapsulates the muddled headedness of black hating skinheads who danced to Tamla all night long; gay skinheads who went queer bashing; sink estate skinhead supporting Thatcher.

A Trotskyist Thatcherite, whatever one of those is, Bushell was one of the first in the country to buy his council house and knew bloody well what Strength Thru Oi! was all about.

This is the man who tried to get Julian Clary banned from TV and has Dale Winton as his daughter's step father

[????]

...but you're confusing tribalism with actual political conviction/thought (or lack of)....plenty of people outwardly hold opinions or positions based on 'who they hang around with', what they think people like them should, their social class, etc etc rather than any deep held convictions.= lazy steretyping/massive inconsistencies et and youth culture is (or back then was) far more about a stance than politics for 99% of those involved....Discuss

[????]

PS Gary Bushell is a wank*r though

[steveo]

Yes but they don't usually kick yer head in and burn down Southall

[????]

I think they got a bit of a hiding in Southall that day.......

...being a committed socialists, wrecking the state education system and sending your kids to private school would be another just as damaging (although not as pyhsically painful) example of tribal muddleheadedness......

[El Pibe]

ha, not naming names :)

[Ted Max]

I was casing a few joints on Court Lane last night and was surprised at the vulgarity of the Christmas light displays on the front of quite a few of the houses.

If you live in one of those houses: bravo.

[Alan Medic]

Thanks Ted.

[steveo]

Could it be incoming Russian Oligarchs lowering the tone?

Have they made it this far south yet?

[Ted Max]

Alan, are you the double fronter that's gone "full Santa"?

steveo, I would guess we're talking a generation removed from the two-car drive, suburban cul-de-sac. But whether Russians or arriviste East-Midlanders - good work them. Fair brightened my pech up the hill.

The other option is full on upper class English eccentric = embracing the gaudy and f*ck you if you care. On the other hand, it could be the wincing middle-middle class affecting such disregard for social norms.

Oh, who knows. It's a socio-economic minefield.

[DaveR]

"The other option is full on upper class English eccentric = embracing the gaudy and f*ck you if you care."

This, I suspect. The Village is a favourite haunt for trick-or-treaters because of the penchant so many of the residents have for covering their front gardens in fake cobwebs and dressing up as skeletons.