the vale pub - changes afoot

[Chick]

Please no football

[Angusvanfrehley]

"we will pay the musicians - no tickets and no charge for the customers. this is a pub which will have live music - we're not going to become a venue."

The Hob in Forest Hill have been doing this for years - it works.

[boxboyuk]

why are some many ED pubs against football???? this is why i went to the vale...and thats why the EDT dose so well, hope it works out for you but from what i have read it seems like you have told everyone that used the pub to do one and everyone that didnt to come a buy half a larger and eat some hand cooked crisps...nevermind...to the edt it is!

[The Teacher]

Stiffleruk22 I dont think they are saying that but are just listening to suggestions and try something new. Personally i like the football in a pub and for the location of the Vale it would work and did. There arent any places doing live music but it was tried in the Vale and failed completely. maybe they will just have to try trial an error and see what fits best. The bishop does fine without a televison but they appeal to a different type of person and are the only place to more sell wine than beer so get away with it.

[DulwichFox]

The Teacher Wrote:

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> Stiffleruk22 I dont think they are saying that but

> are just listening to suggestions and try

> something new. Personally i like the football in a

> pub and for the location of the Vale it would work

> and did. There arent any places doing live music

> but it was tried in the Vale and failed

> completely. maybe they will just have to try trial

> an error and see what fits best. The bishop does

> fine without a televison but they appeal to a

> different type of person and are the only place to

> more sell wine than beer so get away with it.

The Great Exhibition has Live Music (weekly)

I believe The Rose has Live Music.

The Bishop has a projector and Large Screen.

Has Shown most of the Olympics. Shows Major Sports events.

Fox.

[The Teacher]

The Bishop shows Wimbledon NOT football

[DulwichFox]

The Teacher Wrote:

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> The Bishop shows Wimbledon NOT football

I have watched many a football game in The Bishop. It is a bit Selective.

The Actress also shows Football and has one of the best screens around.

Oh while I'm here.. Just passed the EDT and they have a Live Band on 17.30ish..

It's packed out.

Have you ever been to any of the pubs in E.D.

Fox

[ladyinred]

Good luck and welcome,

Great stuff

[Sue]

Angusvanfrehley Wrote:

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> "we will pay the musicians - no tickets and no

> charge for the customers. this is a pub which will

> have live music - we're not going to become a

> venue."

>

> The Hob in Forest Hill have been doing this for

> years - it works.

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It only works for some kinds of (louder) music, or if the musicians are sufficiently thick skinned not to care that many of the people in the pub are not actually listening to them :)

Because if people haven't paid for a ticket, you can't expect them not to carry on loud conversations - which is very distracting for those who are actually trying to listen to the music, unless the music is quite loud!

[Ginster]

Good luck to you - I have lived nearby for nearly 8 years and have never fancied going in the Vale before - now it sounds like I would definitely want to go in with the changes afoot - but I'm leaving ED in 2 weeks! Shame! Will have to see about popping in on a future ED visit I guess.

[yellowfence]

Hi Chris and Antonia. As you will see from the feedback on the forum, you have no hope of recovering from the bad name that the Vale has got from Bernard Manning and the old grey haired git. Not sure how you got finance for this venture, but all will regret the investment. Of course not commenting on both of your abilities, but venturing to steer a SHIP that is holed below the water-line is pure madness, in my view. My advice would be to abandon the vessel and stay at your present pub.

[chrisharvey]

Hi Yellowfence

Nice to see that you have just registered on the forum to post this.

i get the feeling some people simply view this thread as a last chance to have a bitch at the formers chaps.

i started it with the intent of informing people of change and requested peoples positive input.

if you bothered to read the thread you would have seen that we have received many encouraging comments.

while i fully appreciate that there are some negative comments with regard to the former gentlemen, these should be left in the past - where and when they may have been relevant.

We plan to bring change and fresh faces to brighten the pubs future.

Those who wish to see such a future shall be very welcome - those who wish to be unnecessarily negative will probably find this is not the pub for them.

Thanks very much to all of you who have been positive, as for those who have been negative i sincerely wish you all a more positive future.

[James]

What a nasty, negative and unnecessary post Yellowfence!

It's also ignorant. Anyone remember the previous incarnation of the (hugely successful) Palmerston? The Lord Palmerston was a hideous net-curtained hovel full of chain-smoking shell-suited men.

Good luck to Chris and Antonia, the majority want you to succeed and rest assured if it's good, people will come.

[Michelle&Sharon]

The people you are refering to are the owners not managers and the people that are supposedley taking over will be doing so under the same ownership, hence all profits still going to them. Anybody that has met these owners know it will be impossible for them not to get involved. I wish the managers the best of luck as they are going to need it.

[Michelle&Sharon]

Wish you the best of luck because you will most certainly need it working for the owners of the Vale. I hope you haven't given up something good to make this move as with their past record it could be short lived. Hope it works out for you.

[Michelle&Sharon]

They are the owners not management and anybody that has met or knows them will tell you they will not be able to stay away. Its a shame but true.

[Otta]

I think you pretty much got that point over in your first post.

[Michelle&Sharon]

Definitely not new owners just another new management,think there have been more than 13 in the 13 years they have been there. Not a great track record, and all those managers can't have been bad. Not to mention the amount of chefs. Speaks volumes !

[Alan Medic]

Makes you wonder who Michelle&Sharon are. Eastenders?

[Michelle&Sharon]

New to this was answering individuals.

[Michelle&Sharon]

Quick but it has been done before haha

[Jeremy]

Michelle&Sharon - have you met djsenior? I think you'd get on.

[StraferJack]

Back on topic - the place is going through some fairly extensive refurbs - kitchen closed, real ale pumps and lines being replaced, exterior being repainted, new wooden floor laid down etc

The new setup might be a partnership more than a complete change of owner but it's clearly nothing like previous "new manager" installations. It's looking very promising and I'll be checking it out plenty

[Amanda1979]

Sorry, just to clarify - there is no footy?

Good to hear that there will be an overhaul of the food and so on as that really did let the place down. I never had a run in with the managment so couldn't comment, though the Irish barman in there the last time we went was fantastic.

I got excited re the overhaul of food etc as I used to get treated to lunch/dinner at the pub in return for my OH being able to watch the football!

[Mick Mac]

Amanda1979 Wrote:

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> I got excited re the overhaul of food etc as I

> used to get treated to lunch/dinner at the pub in

> return for my OH being able to watch the football!

Why do men always have to offer a "deal" to get to watch football. It is a right not a privelege :)