East Dulwich CPZ

[RubyGraeme]

Can anyone tell us when the new controlled parking zone comes into effect? It was put on hold as lockdown began but it would be good to know when it may be ready to start.

[KidKruger]

other threads on this with some history which you may care to look for and view.

[RubyGraeme]

I know the history, it's buried in several threads. Just wanted a concise update from someone who may know. Thanks.

[AylwardS]

No date has been mentioned that I know of. Keep an eye on this page on the Council website https://www.southwark.gov.uk/health-and-wellbeing/public-health/for-the-public/coronavirus/impact-on-council-services/coronavirus-parking-restrictions-and-controlled-parking-zones. The postponement of the East Dulwich CPZ is mentioned.

[damzel]

So the CPZ comes into force on Monday 14th Sept. I moved into the zone recently so missed the maps that show the different sub-zones and therefore where I can park with my permit. I can't find a map on the Southwark website - does anyone know where I can find one?

[Siduhe]

damzel - pretty sure it is still as originally proposed - see page 4 here:

http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/documents/s84105/Report%20-%20East%20Dulwich%20and%20Peckham%20West%20CPZ.pdf

[damzel]

Thanks - I assumeed it would be further sub-divided so that I would only be able to park in the immediate vicinity of my home. So with a permit, you can park anyone in the green zone?

[northernmonkey]

That?s not the case - there are 2 zones, Peckham west and east dulwich - grove vale is basically the divide - people on grove vale are eligible for permits in either I think but don?t think interchangeable

[eastdulwichhenry]

So they made these zones 8:30am to 6:30pm did they? I thought the plan was for a shorter 2-hour zone to prevent commuters using the station, while not disrupting businesses which need cars to park for picking up heavy items etc.

[first mate]

Indeed, they went the all day route indicating that a remedy for commuter parking was not the central issue, as we kept being told, instead the council probably wanted large scale parking displacement, creating pressure on other roads, leading to more CPZ.

[roywj]

Businesses can buy permits and there are not many located within the CPZ, Lordship Lane & nearly all surrounding side roads are still free for all parking.

eastdulwichhenry Wrote:

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> So they made these zones 8:30am to 6:30pm did

> they? I thought the plan was for a shorter 2-hour

> zone to prevent commuters using the station, while

> not disrupting businesses which need cars to park

> for picking up heavy items etc.

[Abe_froeman]

Lordship Lane & nearly all surrounding side roads are now chockablock with parking refugees from Melbourne Grove and West Peckham

[worldwiser]

People kept saying that apocalyptic predictions were overblown. And yet GG, EDR and LL are now at a near permanent standstill. I can't park within 5 streets of my house unless I do it at midnight, and the vicious hell the council saw fit to visit upon us people on the east side of LL has come to pass.

And just for good measure, they close Melbourne Gv. As if people there weren't rich enough they now get a council-sponsored quiet neighbourhood which should be good for ?100k. After me, 'All in this together' 😀

[roywj]

Lots of tickets issued today

[Rockets]

roywj Wrote:

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> Lots of tickets issued today

I just walked along East Dulwich Grove towards Lordship Lane and every other car parked there has a ticket - bumper bonus day for the traffic wardens and council. Very little signage on the section of EDG in front of the old hospital to tell you it is permit only which might explain why so many people are falling foul of it.

[ED_moots]

Someone I know spoke to wardens today and they're issuing warnings today (which look like tickets).

Small comfort.

[roywj]

That's fair, plenty of warning for those use to parking there and much better than getting a fine.

ED_moots Wrote:

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> Someone I know spoke to wardens today and they're

> issuing warnings today (which look like tickets).

>

> Small comfort.

[northernmonkey]

Think its important that there are some warnings as this zone has been so long in being implemented. Sounds like the council are doing this and so people will have no excuse for not knowing - that and the fact there are signs up showing that the zone is in operation and what the hours are.

[judith]

For any frustrated residents in East Dulwich who are disappointed that their street is NOT included in the new controlled parking zones, and who struggle to find a parking space near their home please let the council know here:

https://forms.southwark.gov.uk/showform.asp

If the link doesn't work, it's the Parking section: Request a Parking Zone Consultation. Thank you.

[Abe_froeman]

Can we request the removal of a parking zone to put things back to how they were? That would be far better.

[roywj]

I live in the new CPZ zone, neighbours and I are already very happy with the effect it has had. However I can understand people in other areas being unhappy with the knock on effect, we suffered the same here when neighbouring zones were introduced.

Abe_froeman Wrote:

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> Can we request the removal of a parking zone to

> put things back to how they were? That would be

> far better.

[jimlad48]

roywj Wrote:

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> I live in the new CPZ zone, neighbours and I are

> already very happy with the effect it has had.

> However I can understand people in other areas

> being unhappy with the knock on effect, we

> suffered the same here when neighbouring zones

> were introduced.

>

>

> Abe_froeman Wrote:

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> > Can we request the removal of a parking zone to

> > put things back to how they were? That would be

> > far better.

This is the inevitability of CPZs - they dislocate traffic and make you realise just how many people who aren't residents are parking in some areas. I suspect many areas that voted 'no' for a CPZ will soon rue the day this happened.

[first mate]

Yes, but the commuter parking issue, arguably an inevitable and entirely forseeable side effect of choosing to live close to a train station, could have been mitigated by time limited CPZ, which could have meant those living by the station would have had a solution and other nearby streets would not have been made to suffer displacement to the same degree. However, this reasonable and even-handed option was rejected.

[roywj]

The train station is not the only source of parking, there are the schools and health centre nearby so the longer hours are much more suitable. Given that we would be paying the same price for either scheme I see it as a no-brainer having the longer coverage.

first mate Wrote:

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> Yes, but the commuter parking issue, arguably an

> inevitable and entirely forseeable side effect of

> choosing to live close to a train station, could

> have been mitigated by time limited CPZ, which

> could have meant those living by the station would

> have had a solution and other nearby streets would

> not have been made to suffer displacement to the

> same degree. However, this reasonable and

> even-handed option was rejected.

[first mate]

Yes, well you might but it was always argued that commuter parking was the central issue, this could have been dealt with by the time limited option. Goodness, we had tales of commuter stalkers in cars harassing householders and all sorts. The health centre and schools were never mentioned. The all day CPZ has facilitated CPZ creep in a way that was never necessary.