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You know there really is quite enough quirky foodie pubs in this area already with children crawling round on the floor through drink slops and people drinking herbal tea and pineapple juice, when you're next sipping away at your juice and bragging about how wonderful your gifted prodigy child is whilst not sneering at everyone just remember you're in a pub, yes a pub, not a cr?che where the working man likes to relax after a hard days work and watch some football away from screaming children. I hope this does not become a case of 'class cleansing' as there is no alternative local pubs to watch the ghastly working class football

It's amazing how many people take their kids to pubs...and think it acceptable for them to be around booze.


What would happen if someone opened a can of beer in a Cr?che / Nursery. ??


Would that be acceptable ??


Sort of brings the question home.



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The Castle is on Crystal Palace Road, junction with Goodrich. Proper old skool pub, used to be a dive, but a lot nicer these days, whilst still being very much an old fashioned boozer.


Pretty much the only one left, and the last stand of all the old CPT regulars (which is why I sometimes go, as the CPT was my boozer).

Cheers, looks a bit of a hike as the tree is closer but i guess i won't be herded into a corner and made to feel like i'm intruding by having the nerve to be into a working class sport. I guess the 'strip' is surrendered, personally i hang round franklins with the missus as the bishop is full of the worst peopple on the planet and the edt is where you go to be hassled by beggars and 'dodgy women' et al. Still, anything's got to be better than having to drink with children in the room, don't these people know there's parks out there?

Bigalgray Wrote:

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> You know there really is quite enough quirky

> foodie pubs in this area already with children

> crawling round on the floor through drink slops

> and people drinking herbal tea and pineapple

> juice, when you're next sipping away at your juice

> and bragging about how wonderful your gifted

> prodigy child is whilst not sneering at everyone

> just remember you're in a pub, yes a pub, not a

> cr?che where the working man likes to relax after

> a hard days work and watch some football away from

> screaming children. I hope this does not become a

> case of 'class cleansing' as there is no

> alternative local pubs to watch the ghastly

> working class football


This pub is neither aimed at children, sport, or good food. I struggle to see its USP.

It seems its just a pub.

Bigalgray Wrote:

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> You know there really is quite enough quirky

> foodie pubs in this area already with children

> crawling round on the floor through drink slops

> and people drinking herbal tea and pineapple

> juice, when you're next sipping away at your juice

> and bragging about how wonderful your gifted

> prodigy child is whilst not sneering at everyone

> just remember you're in a pub, yes a pub, not a

> cr?che where the working man likes to relax after

> a hard days work and watch some football away from

> screaming children. I hope this does not become a

> case of 'class cleansing' as there is no

> alternative local pubs to watch the ghastly

> working class football



Are women allowed in or is it just the working man?


My parents took me to the pub loads of times in the 70's. It's not a yuppie/hipster phenomenon.

Chillaxed Wrote:

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> Bigalgray Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > You know there really is quite enough quirky

> > foodie pubs in this area already with children

> > crawling round on the floor through drink slops

> > and people drinking herbal tea and pineapple

> > juice, when you're next sipping away at your

> juice

> > and bragging about how wonderful your gifted

> > prodigy child is whilst not sneering at

> everyone

> > just remember you're in a pub, yes a pub, not a

> > cr?che where the working man likes to relax

> after

> > a hard days work and watch some football away

> from

> > screaming children. I hope this does not become

> a

> > case of 'class cleansing' as there is no

> > alternative local pubs to watch the ghastly

> > working class football

>

>

> Are women allowed in or is it just the working

> man?

>

> My parents took me to the pub loads of times in

> the 70's. It's not a yuppie/hipster phenomenon.


Taking your kids to the pub is one thing. Letting them run around is another.


I thought the licensing laws used to not allow children under a certain age (14). That was certainly the case in the Seventies. Then when separate dining areas were brought in younger children were allowed to go there but not in the main bar part.


If kids were allowed in in those days then why did so many children have to sit outside in the car while the parents were inside?

Prince Albert on Bellenden Road is of the old-school variety. No food (bar ready salted or cheese'n'onion) and plenty of sport.


Went to the Cherry Tree on Sat evening for a quick drink and thought it was quite pleasant. Much nicer than the Vale. Reasonable too.


It does suffer from just being too big though - at least with no dividing walls which tends to make pubs feel drafty and unwelcoming. A snug or lounge/saloon divide would be amazing but is much harder to replace than remove.


Have heard good reviews of the food and the menu (esp. the fish) sounded good so will pop back for that at some point.

Perhaps I should have mentioned that I am a NZer, so licensing laws (and the application of them by the local copper) may have been different.


Gidget Wrote:

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> Chillaxed Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Bigalgray Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > You know there really is quite enough quirky

> > > foodie pubs in this area already with

> children

> > > crawling round on the floor through drink

> slops

> > > and people drinking herbal tea and pineapple

> > > juice, when you're next sipping away at your

> > juice

> > > and bragging about how wonderful your gifted

> > > prodigy child is whilst not sneering at

> > everyone

> > > just remember you're in a pub, yes a pub, not

> a

> > > cr?che where the working man likes to relax

> > after

> > > a hard days work and watch some football away

> > from

> > > screaming children. I hope this does not

> become

> > a

> > > case of 'class cleansing' as there is no

> > > alternative local pubs to watch the ghastly

> > > working class football

> >

> >

> > Are women allowed in or is it just the working

> > man?

> >

> > My parents took me to the pub loads of times in

> > the 70's. It's not a yuppie/hipster

> phenomenon.

>

> Taking your kids to the pub is one thing. Letting

> them run around is another.

>

> I thought the licensing laws used to not allow

> children under a certain age (14). That was

> certainly the case in the Seventies. Then when

> separate dining areas were brought in younger

> children were allowed to go there but not in the

> main bar part.

>

> If kids were allowed in in those days then why did

> so many children have to sit outside in the car

> while the parents were inside?

Gidget Wrote:

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> Chillaxed Wrote:

> If kids were allowed in in those days then why did

> so many children have to sit outside in the car

> while the parents were inside?


Inspired parenting?

henryb Wrote:

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> Gidget Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Chillaxed Wrote:

> > If kids were allowed in in those days then why

> did

> > so many children have to sit outside in the car

> > while the parents were inside?

>

> Inspired parenting?


Come on - sitting in the car (or the beer garden) the landlord couldn't see it was YOU drinking the bacardi & coke whilst your driving parent drank the straight cola.

david_carnell Wrote:

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> Prince Albert on Bellenden Road is of the

> old-school variety. No food (bar ready salted or

> cheese'n'onion) and plenty of sport.

>


I found that place somewhat unsettling. It's got a BNP vibe.

Scariest pub I've been to was the St Germain's (Now Honor Oak) in Forest Hill.


Stepping in there I know how Alan Partridge felt when he went to his fan's house and found a shrine to himself. Or at least Roy Keane would have done had he ever gone there.

El Pibe Wrote:

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> Scariest pub I've been to was the St Germain's

> (Now Honor Oak) in Forest Hill.

>

> Stepping in there I know how Alan Partridge felt

> when he went to his fan's house and found a shrine

> to himself. Or at least Roy Keane would have done

> had he ever gone there.



I had some cracking nights in there years ago. Wouldn't have gone alone though!

There was a very intimidatingly drunk chap at the bar asking where in Ireland we were from with more than a hint of menace that the wrong answer could get us killed.

He simply couldn't compute that we weren't Irish, my mate tried to explain bless him


- "So where you from then?"

- "I'm from Forest Hill"

- "Ah sure you are, but where in Ireland are you from?"

- "I'm not Irish, I'm English"

- "I get that, but where in Ireland are you from?"

- "Err, England"

- "Ah, of course you are, but your folks?"

- "They're English too"

- "Sure they are, but where in Ireland are they from?"


In the end I risked mumbling something like "Athlone" and he was satisfied with that, allowing us to scuttle into a corner and cower a bit!

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