Protest against "Khan's Bargain Limited"

[LadyDeliah]

I'm not sure that allowing the Afghans to continue to police Rye Lane based on their idea of racial profiling is particularly helpful.

[Jeremy]

Is it only me who sees the irony in that sentence?

[Jeremy]

The chances of a guy getting beaten just because of his ethnicity seem incredibly low to me. He must have done something to seriously piss them off. Not saying it's excusable, not saying it's right to take the law into your own hands, but there is surely more to this than nasty Afghans beating up poor innocent black kids.

[KidKruger]

Any 'profiling' the Afghans are using will be based on where the trouble and threat to their business is coming from.

If white people or Chinese are threatening then I'd expect they will be the focus.

There's no excuse for vigilantism and it is illegal, but trouble-makers know that and will abuse that restriction on shopkeepers' reaction.

[Chillaxed]

Why would Khan's be so stupid as to alienate their largest consumer base?

[david_carnell]

Placards and chants of "Go back to Paki-land" and "Go back to where you're from" would seem to suggest the racism isn't only coming from Khan's employees.

[KidKruger]

They wouldn't.

But they may be tempted to try and address the individuals concerned.

[Otta]

david_carnell Wrote:

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> Placards and chants of "Go back to Paki-land" and

> "Go back to where you're from" would seem to

> suggest the racism isn't only coming from Khan's

> employees.

Haha!!! Shouldn't laugh, but that is hilarious!

[david_carnell]

Otta - if I told you most of them were poorly spelt too.

The stupidity of the whole things makes the mind boggle.

If you want to protest at shop owners using excessive force in dealing with thefts, all well and good, but I don't think race is an issue. Beyond the fact that Asians own the shop and Africans are stealing from it.

[KidKruger]

Did the people who posted originally and highlighted there was a protest against the shopkeeper 'racists' not hear/see these placards and chants ?!

Like i said originally, more to it than the impression we were supposed to get.

If there were placards / chants of this nature I'd expect the police to respond, because it's blatant racism.

I'm glad I have not experienced much racism personally, but doubly glad because it means little danger of me being tempted to pull the race card as a default distraction to things I or my peers have done.

[david_carnell]

KK - this was a first hand account from a colleague of mine. A man who I would trust implicitly and not prone to hyperbole.

[woodrot]

migrants establishing a perceived pecking order is not something new in se london

[KidKruger]

DC - I'm not questioning your post, just to be clear. I am shocked though at the content from some of the protestors, and the nature of it all being at odds with the impression the earlier posters tried to create.

Maybe the thread needs now to be re-named: "Hypocritical Racist Slur By Friends Of Found-Out Shoplifters" ?

Unless there's more 'information' to be had.

[maxxi]

Is this whole thread not just another teaser for BBCs stereotypically racist hilarious and groundbreaking sitcom "Citizen Khan"?

ETA the 't' at the front of this before anyone asks which he (his) I mean

[DEBATE THE BAIT@48]

IT IS NOT FANTASY I HAVE WITNESS AN ENTIRE INCIDENT AT KHANS BEFORE SOMETIME AGO OVER THE SAME THING A PHONE. THE MAN WOULD NOT LEAVE AND THEY MAN HANDLED HIM, THEN WHEN THE POLICE CAME THEY MAN HANDLED THE MAN AGAIN AND TOOK HIM TO THE STATION I WENT THE STATION TO TRY TO GIVE EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE MAN AND WAS TOLD IT WAS NON OF MY BUSINESS. EARLIER IN AUGUST 2012 MY DAUGHTERS FRIEND CALLED ME AT HOME ASKING IF I COULD COME AND HELP HER TO GET HER MONEY BACK FOR SOME DODGY PHONE SHE HAS BOUGHT. I TOLD HER TO OFFER TO BUY A MORE EXPENSIVE PHONE FROM THEM AND LET THEM TAKE THE DODGEY ONE BACK AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO GIVE HER A RECEIPT THEN SHE MUST ASK ABOUT THERE POLICY ON RETURNS AND CHANGE HE MIND INSTANTLY ABOUT THE PHONE SHE NOW HAVE WITH THE RECEIPT SHE GOT HER MONEY BACK. BUT SHE WAS TRYING FOR OVER AN HOUR AND WAS OFFERED HALF THE MONEY BACK FOR THE PRICE OF THE PHONE AND TO COME BACK LATER FOR THE REST OF THE MONEY JUST LIKE THE STORY WE HEAR WITH THIS BOY. IT IS A CASE OF ILLEGAL THEFT FROM THE SHOP KEEPERS AND ABOVE THE LAW BEHAVIOUR AND CRIMINAL RECORD BEING GIVEN OUT TO INNOCENT PEOPLE, THE STAFF HAVE GONE OVER AND BEYOND THE TOP AND THE POLICE IS SUPPORTING THIS BY ACCIDENT.

GROSS LACK OF CUSTOMER SERVICE SHOPPERS ARE ENTITLED TO TREATED WITH RESPECT AND DIGNITY THE GOVERMENT NEED TO SORT OUT THE CONSTANT ABUSE BECAUSE THE DIRECTION THINGS IS HEADING IN DONT LOOK GOOD. YOU DONT EXPECT TO HEAR THAT A SHOP KEEPER TOLD A PARENT IN FRONT OF A POLICE THAT I WILL SHOOT YOU AND NOT BE HANDCUFFED THIS IS DISGRACFUL. EVEN IF HE CAN PAY IS WAY OUT OF COURT IT SHOULD STILL BE DEALT WITH PROPER BY THE POLICE. SO THEY KNOW BRITAIN DOES NOT TOLERATE TREATS OF THIS NATURE. WHAT DISAPLINARY BODY DOES SHOP KEEPER COME UNDER? IF NONE ONE SHOULD BE CREATED. SUSPENDED FROM TRADING 30DAYS OR SOMETHING.....

[Voyageur]

Christ on a bike..... very surprised this site allows such hysterical, unsubstantiated allegations against a business to remain on a public forum :(

[El Pibe]

I've tried three times and am unable to read it, that could be why.

Can you summarise?

[DEBATE THE BAIT@48]

CUSTOMER SERVICE OVER CAN LEAD TO A PUNCH AT KHAN'S THIS IS NOW COMMON KNOWLEDGE

[DEBATE THE BAIT@48]

IF PEOPLE DON,T TALK HOW DO YOU GET KNOW THE TRUTH

[Otta]

Is your CAPS LOCK BUTTON BROKEN?

[KidKruger]

looks like some of the vigorous CAPITALISED posts have been removed, perhaps because of their inflamatory nature.

it seems clear now that the originally painted scene of one-way aggravation is in fact a two-way street, but the earlier posters omitted to mention the 'other way'.

[DEBATE THE BAIT@48]

if someone was attacked by a shop keeper one can easily assume that this shop keeper is correct but if you buy a phone that don't work what is policy on getting your money back from these secondhand dealers should you not know that if it stops working straight away that you will only get back half your money. very serious customer problem always leading to people being beaten up in peckham. Sort it out Mr khan. please advertise you policy and trade fairly. same old story year in year out.

[david_carnell]

So let's be clear here "DebatetheBait@48" - what you are alleging is this:

Someone bought a phone from Khans

It turned out to be faulty

They tried to return it and demand a refund

They were told "no" by staff at Khans

Upon complaining they were summarily beaten up by members of Khans staff

These are serious allegations with serious legal implications. I hope you are aware of that. You should not post rumour or hearsay.

Do you know the person this happened to? Have you reported it to the the police? What was the outcome?

[KidKruger]

Basically some bruvvas tried to bully the Khan's staff and got owned, they're used to getting their way through rough talk and intimidation but they fell short this time.

Thing is, they don't come from a war zone, being brought-up on gangster hip-hop and dominating people to get what they want, a lush life with such easy pickings is no match for the genuine article.

I give this thread 2/10 for its manipulative efforts.

[jctg]

This thread is almost entirely made up of rumour and conjecture. The internet at its finest.