Even more annoying aircraft noise?!

[????]

Or the babies screaming Bob

[*Bob*]

???? Wrote:

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> Or the babies screaming Bob

Gaffer tape. Works wonders.

[lozzyloz]

What aircraft noise? I've got a neighbour mowing his lawn, the kids on the other side screaming on the trampoline, someone's yappy terrier head butting a bedroom window, the house across the back being developed into flats and the road being excavated to renew the gas mains.

Now a perfect summers day would be a picnic in Kew Gardens lying on my back plane spotting with some Russian military optics.

[woodie]

its very quiet for planes today. noticebly.

[Nero]

So, is it the wind that affects the planes or do they have a rota so that other areas get their fare share? Nero

[Asset]

the wind affects which direction they come in I think

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

If we all huffed and puffed at the same time ...

[Cuthbert Dibble]

I know I've mentioned this before but just to clarify...

Planes land into the wind (so they don't land too fast basically). 70% of the time approx, the wind at Heathrow is westerly, which means that to land into it the planes have to fly over London, often East Dulwich....

But if it's easterly (as it is right now, and will be until Thurdsay at least according to the forecast) they land from the west, into the wind, ie over Reading, Windsor etc.....

They take off towards us, but usually fly off in a different direction before flying over South East London.

So that's why it's quiet right now - enjoy while it lasts!

[Klaus]

I found this whilst nerding around on thinternet. Although the ED area is obscured it gives a clear idea how the flightpaths into Heathrow work when there's a westerly wind.

http://www.caa.co.uk/images/72/arr_tracks.jpg

[woodie]

good find. aluminium skies

[mikeb]

Very impressed by Cuthbert Dibble's weather forecasting skills - this week has been blissfully quiet. Anyone know if global warming will result in predominantly easterly winds?

[Cuthbert Dibble]

you can see what the wind's going to be doing on this website - http://www.xcweather.co.uk/.

Many amateur pilots use it. Just drag the arrow over Heathrow - as you can see we've got a few more peaceful days to come....

[Nero]

It has been quiet. Where I live it is practically silent, save for the odd car. Would someone who likes this kind of thing and is knowledgeable please post up when the winds are in our favour? It'd be nice to have that kind of good news every now and then pop up on the forum! Nero

[mockney piers]

http://www.xcweather.co.uk/

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

When will Mary Poppins be flying in?

[Mark]

I see one of the protesters against the Heathrow expansion on the roof of the House of Commons today was from East Dulwich, or as the Daily Cookwank calls them "the new pin-ups of the green movement"

"Olivia Chessel the youngest of today's protesters (bottom left), was also involved in that campaign. She was pictured today with one arm raised aloft in triumphant salute. She lives with her mother Karen, 59, in East Dulwich."

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_04/protester1_800x567.jpg

I prefer having the picture of that tennis girl scratching her bum pinned up on my wall, but maybe that's just me

[macroban]

Frightening.

Four out of five are Borg.

[*Bob*]

That's not fair, Macroban. The bottom left one is more McEnroe, I'd say.

[peckhamasbestos]

Putting aside my view that the proposed Heathrow expansion sends out an entirely contrary message to that of seeking to reduce/limit carbon emissions from all of us as individuals I secretly like this sort of protest;

Maximum publicity

No one gets hurt

The authorities are made to look rather foolish

Top marks!

pa.

[markybwoy]

Nonsense. Another runway at Heathrow means less time on approach not more.

[*Bob*]

I'm sure it probably means roughly the same time on approach and more planes.

Not that I mind.

[HonaloochieB]

Mark Wrote:

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> I see one of the protesters against the Heathrow

> expansion on the roof of the House of Commons

> today was from East Dulwich, or as the Daily

> Cookwank calls them "the new pin-ups of the green

> movement"

>

> "Olivia Chessel the youngest of today's protesters

> (bottom left), was also involved in that campaign.

> She was pictured today with one arm raised aloft

> in triumphant salute. She lives with her mother

> Karen, 59, in East Dulwich."

>

> http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_04/protes

> ter1_800x567.jpg

>

> I prefer having the picture of that tennis girl

> scratching her bum pinned up on my wall, but maybe

> that's just me

Is Olivia a cyborg or terminusator?

[markybwoy]

Heathrow is already running at over capacity for runway time, so I doubt they can squeeze many more aircraft. The point is that if there's more runway time available then they won't have to stack round and round over East London as much before going into that final approach path shown so nicely by all those red lines above.

[mockney piers]

I seem to recall Hethrow's currently at 80% capacity, but its runways were at 97%, hence why a bit of fog can cause such huge knock on effects.

[*Bob*]

I just can't see the logic there, marky.

Heathrow is currently getting as many planes in as it possibly can, because more planes = more business = more profit. The idea that they'd spend a sackload of dosh on a new runway and keep the number of planes coming-in exactly the same is madness. Once it's in, they'll ramp-up the number of planes because the new runway will allow an greater capacity. That's what they're building it for.